Fallout: The Television Series

[fireproof78]

For me, realism is hit and miss. It depends on the story being told. When it comes to post-apocalyptic, I want it to be dark, gritty, emotionally devastating, trauma is part of daily life. Terminator got this right.

To each their own.

Terminator can pound sand for all I care. It should be left in the dustbin, save for the technological development that Cameron managed in T2. But, other than that, no.


But, I work with trauma on the daily in my job. Trauma in daily life in my TV shows is not my sought after entertainment.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Terminator can pound sand for all I care. It should be left in the dustbin, save for the technological development that Cameron managed in T2. But, other than that, no.

But, I work with trauma on the daily in my job. Trauma in daily life in my TV shows is not my sought after entertainment.

Why hostility toward Terminator? Love the movies (all 6), TSCC, and the Netflix anime. Some entries are better than others, but they're all worth seeing, I think anyway.

I have to deal with trauma too, my mother died in my arms 12 years ago. I still enjoy films that deal with death and grieving.

 

[fireproof78]

Why hostility toward Terminator? Love the movies (all 6), TSCC, and the Netflix anime. Some entries are better than others, but they're all worth seeing, I think anyway.

It's not an enjoyable story or movie. Time travel is rarely something I enjoy so much.

I have to deal with trauma too, my mother died in my arms 12 years ago. I still enjoy films that deal with death and grieving.

And I see the consequences and help other humans cope. I don't need to seek out trauma and death in my media if I don't desire it. Fallout was a game I found interesting from a lore and worldbuilding perspective, and have since I played it on old PCs back in the 90s. So, the appeal is different than the typical post-apocalyptic fare.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

It's not an enjoyable story or movie. Time travel is rarely something I enjoy so much.

And I see the consequences and help other humans cope. I don't need to seek out trauma and death in my media if I don't desire it. Fallout was a game I found interesting from a lore and worldbuilding perspective, and have since I played it on old PCs back in the 90s. So, the appeal is different than the typical post-apocalyptic fare.

Fair enough, didn't know you didn't care for time travel. Also, helps to know you approach Fallout from the POV of a gamer and fan of the games. My POV is a fan of "realistic" post-apocalyptic fiction, and I was expecting that.

 

[fireproof78]

Fair enough, didn't know you didn't care for time travel. Also, helps to know you approach Fallout from the POV of a gamer and fan of the games. My POV is a fan of "realistic" post-apocalyptic fiction, and I was expecting that.

A cursory look at Fallout anything would probably tell you that realistic was not in the cards.


I'm not a fan of all the games; I am a fan of the world and lore. It's a divergent timeline, an alternate history, one that utilizes interesting concepts of culture, iconography, and difference in political history to weave a different world. The technology is different, the different understanding of radiation is fascinating, and the whole world draws me in. It's also incredibly interesting.

Not just a gamer.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

A cursory look at Fallout anything would probably tell you that realistic was not in the cards.


I'm not a fan of all the games; I am a fan of the world and lore. It's a divergent timeline, an alternate history, one that utilizes interesting concepts of culture, iconography, and difference in political history to weave a different world. The technology is different, the different understanding of radiation is fascinating, and the whole world draws me in. It's also incredibly interesting.

Not just a gamer.

Fair enough. I myself detest the "alternate history" concept in TV series form. I don't mind if it's just a wacky movie, though.

 

[Airmandan]

If you don't mind me asking, why are you so passionate about arguing about why you don't like the show? It's a show based on a series of popular video games, if it didn't follow the lore that was in the games then the majority of people who liked the games wouldn't like the show. You seem to be trying to convince people to come to your mindset which doesn't work here. Fallout is not Jericho or The Last of Us or The Walking Dead, it is its own thing.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

If you don't mind me asking, why are you so passionate about arguing about why you don't like the show? It's a show based on a series of popular video games, if it didn't follow the lore that was in the games then the majority of people who liked the games wouldn't like the show. You seem to be trying to convince people to come to your mindset which doesn't work here. Fallout is not Jericho or The Last of Us or The Walking Dead, it is its own thing.

I am participating in discussion, not limited in merely stating what I dislike. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, except maybe to give Terminator a go.

 

[Starkers]

I love post apocalyptic stuff, guessing it's growing up in the 70s and 80s, but in the same way I love a grounded and gritty Bond film as much as I love a ridiculous one, I like all flavours of post apocalyptic, but if you want realistic I'd say anything beyond Threads, The Road and maybe The Day After is wishful thinking.

I do love Fallout though, and I think the bright 50s' Americana vibe and Lucy's plucky optimism actually make it an even grittier show (in the same way I always argue that Roger Moore's light touch and amiable portrayal of 007 makes his brutal moments all the more shocking because you're not expecting it)

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I love post apocalyptic stuff, guessing it's growing up in the 70s and 80s, but in the same way I love a grounded and gritty Bond film as much as I love a ridiculous one, I like all flavours of post apocalyptic, but if you want realistic I'd say anything beyond Threads, The Road and maybe The Day After is wishful thinking.

I do love Fallout though, and I think the bright 50s' Americana vibe and Lucy's plucky optimism actually make it an even grittier show (in the same way I always argue that Roger Moore's light touch and amiable portrayal of 007 makes his brutal moments all the more shocking because you're not expecting it)

The Day After is truly a beautiful film regarding conveying what everyone should hope to avoid. The ending always moves me so deeply...

Spoiler: The Day After (ending scene)

...the radiated man sitting in the ruins of what used to be his home, knowing he will die from radiation sickness with no hope. A family he tried to run off, sharing what precious little food they had with him.

 

[Set Harth]

I found these to be far more realistic.

Well, if you buy the whole zatoichi thing, I guess.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Is there going to be a second season of Hello Tomorrow? Based on Wikipedia it looks like it's over.

Oh. Well, that’s disappointing. I hadn’t really looked into it, and just thought it was part of the usual long wait between seasons of a streaming show.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Well, if you buy the whole zatoichi thing, I guess.

The what?

 

[Set Harth]

Blind swordsman/warrior.

The Day After is truly a beautiful film regarding conveying what everyone should hope to avoid.

Never got around to seeing it. In their infinite wisdom my school informed parents they were not to allow their children to watch it. And my parents were the type that responded to the school's dictates with a "your wish is my command, Dear Leader" approach. So when I changed the channel to ABC that night they completely spazzed out and made me turn it off.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Blind swordsman/warrior.


Never got around to seeing it. In their infinite wisdom my school informed parents they were not to allow their children to watch it. And my parents were the type that responded to the school's dictates with a "your wish is my command, Dear Leader" approach. So when I changed the channel to ABC that night they completely spazzed out and made me turn it off.

It's on DVD, and I think Blu-ray too. I strongly recommend picking it up on disc and giving it a go. It's very sad, but very realistic.

 

[Set Harth]

I only remember a scene where it was snowing. I thought, "is that supposed to be nuclear winter?"

 

[CommanderTrip]

The Day After is truly a beautiful film regarding conveying what everyone should hope to avoid. The ending always moves me so deeply...

Spoiler: The Day After (ending scene)

...the radiated man sitting in the ruins of what used to be his home, knowing he will die from radiation sickness with no hope. A family he tried to run off, sharing what precious little food they had with him.

According to IMDB, our very own TWOK director Nicholas Meyer helmed "The Day After" in 1983. I wonder if he did this before or after TWOK? curiousity has been peaked and I'll be adding this one to the watch list for sure!

 

[Set Harth]

piqued

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

According to IMDB, our very own TWOK director Nicholas Meyer helmed "The Day After" in 1983. I wonder if he did this before or after TWOK? curiousity has been peaked and I'll be adding this one to the watch list for sure!

I'm fairly certain he filmed The Wrath of Khan in late 1981 and early '82, then went on to film The Day After later on in 1982 or '83. OK, I just found this:

Finally, in May, ABC hired the feature film director Nicholas Meyer, who had just completed the blockbuster Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Meyer was apprehensive at first and doubted ABC would get away with making a television film on nuclear war without the censors diminishing its effect. However, after reading the script, Meyer agreed to direct The Day After. source

 

[CommanderTrip]

I'm fairly certain he filmed The Wrath of Khan in late 1981 and early '82, then went on to film The Day After later on in 1982 or '83. OK, I just found this:

Finally, in May, ABC hired the feature film director Nicholas Meyer, who had just completed the blockbuster Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. Meyer was apprehensive at first and doubted ABC would get away with making a television film on nuclear war without the censors diminishing its effect. However, after reading the script, Meyer agreed to direct The Day After. source

Thanks for this! For some reason I was under the wrong impression TWOK came out in 83. I think I confused it with ROTJ? I know, I know, sacrilege confusing Star Trek with Star Wars.