I tried to play some fallout today, but I couldn't, Fable and Gears were calling to me. I think my guy is cursed to stay in megaton for a while until I can get back to the game.
FALLOUT 3 - discussion thread
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My brother and I have both been playing this a lot over the last week or so. The amazing thing is that even though we've both had about even amounts of playtime, we're both doing completely different things. The amount of freedom here is amazing.
Actually little Lamp lite is the futuristic version of the Fire Dept.
All the parents that don't want their foul mouthed, smart assed kids anymore drop the off there.
Seriously though, Do the quests have to be done in a certain order?
Or what am I forgetting?
The first go around I played "good" and got to little lamp lite a little later in the game, I got right through the back gate.
Now I'm playing evil and it says I can't unlock it.
Does the quest with my father have to be done first? because I didn't really pursue that at all.
I did free the kids from paradise falls.
Funny thing is, I did the "evil" slaver quest to get the Achievement then turned around and killed everyone and set all the slaves free.
Second. How the heck do you get into Vault 87?
I found the door and terminal but it says it need power to activate it.
Also, where is the computer the school teacher is talking about that hold the info about the Vault?
Did anyone catch the inside joke about Mayor MaCready's initials being R.J.?
R.J. MaCready, too funny.
All the parents that don't want their foul mouthed, smart assed kids anymore drop the off there.
Seriously though, Do the quests have to be done in a certain order?
Or what am I forgetting?
The first go around I played "good" and got to little lamp lite a little later in the game, I got right through the back gate.
Now I'm playing evil and it says I can't unlock it.
Does the quest with my father have to be done first? because I didn't really pursue that at all.
I did free the kids from paradise falls.
Funny thing is, I did the "evil" slaver quest to get the Achievement then turned around and killed everyone and set all the slaves free.
Second. How the heck do you get into Vault 87?
I found the door and terminal but it says it need power to activate it.
Also, where is the computer the school teacher is talking about that hold the info about the Vault?
Did anyone catch the inside joke about Mayor MaCready's initials being R.J.?
R.J. MaCready, too funny.
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I wondered about that too. Perhaps when babies are born in Big Town they're brought back to Little Lamplight and/or the scav teams pick up stray children in the wastes.
As for getting into Vault 87; I think you have to have the main quest completed up to a certain point before you can get in. Be careful though, once you go in you're not getting out for a while so make sure you only take when you need (armour & one or two weapons) and don't take any followers with you.
I think Vault 87 is one of the main quest vaults so you have to get far enough with your fathers quest to get in there. There are two ways, one through murder pass and the other through the unpowered door. The murder pass one you can't get through till the mayor of lamplight opens it for you, the other you need to talk to lamplight school teacher and fix the terminal I think.
The only computer I can think of that has the vault information is the archive computers in the pentagon. Pretty interesting read going through all the experiments going on in each vault.
The only computer I can think of that has the vault information is the archive computers in the pentagon. Pretty interesting read going through all the experiments going on in each vault.
Thanks, I'll just come back after I do the father quest.
I know what you mean about the info on the computers.
You could easily spend hours and hours reading some of that stuff.
I tried doing a few of the little unknown quests on some of them but didn't really get too far.
I did find Prime's secret stash in the museum of technology and then his bad ass AK47 at the restaurant.
I never did find the secret "Nuka Cola Clear" recipe but found a lot of stuff pertaining to it in the Nuka Cola Plant.
I'm also lacking the flour for that Nuka cola shrine chick to bake me a Nuka Cola Pie.
Pisses me off too because I found a lot of it in the beginning of the game but don't remember where.
I've actually lost an entire stash of components and can't for the life of me remember where it is...well I do know where is is, sorta, it's in an area adjoining one of the metro tunnels, near a workbench and a prototype plasma turret next to a tunnel infested with Glowing Ones. I just can't remember what the metro tunnel was called and there's a bloody ton of those things all over the map.
I've only found a few bags of flour and I think most of it was in abandoned scavenger shacks out in the wastes around the Tenpenny Tower/Evergreen Mills area.
I've only found a few bags of flour and I think most of it was in abandoned scavenger shacks out in the wastes around the Tenpenny Tower/Evergreen Mills area.
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The one thing I hate about these games is how little you can carry and how much money traders have. There's always too much stuff to collect and traders only have a finite amount of cash so you can't always sell your stuff so you've got to wait around for them to save cash up again.
I ended up going back and forth to places from that medical building, I ended up storing everything in the bins outside of it just to make sure I collected everything of value, then it's a task having to keeping jumping back and forth to the bins and traders to sell it all.
I just wish they'd make the game where you can carry a lot more stuff from the beginning and traders have an infinite amount of money to buy everything from you.
One thing I did enjoy was after completing all quests you can get from megaton I killed everyone and emptied the entire city of everything of value, then I went to tenpenny tower, sold as much as I could and then blew Megatons nuke. A win/win situation.
I ended up going back and forth to places from that medical building, I ended up storing everything in the bins outside of it just to make sure I collected everything of value, then it's a task having to keeping jumping back and forth to the bins and traders to sell it all.
I just wish they'd make the game where you can carry a lot more stuff from the beginning and traders have an infinite amount of money to buy everything from you.
One thing I did enjoy was after completing all quests you can get from megaton I killed everyone and emptied the entire city of everything of value, then I went to tenpenny tower, sold as much as I could and then blew Megatons nuke. A win/win situation.
The one thing I hate about these games is how little you can carry and how much money traders have. There's always too much stuff to collect and traders only have a finite amount of cash so you can't always sell your stuff so you've got to wait around for them to save cash up again.
I ended up going back and forth to places from that medical building, I ended up storing everything in the bins outside of it just to make sure I collected everything of value, then it's a task having to keeping jumping back and forth to the bins and traders to sell it all.
I just wish they'd make the game where you can carry a lot more stuff from the beginning and traders have an infinite amount of money to buy everything from you.
One thing I did enjoy was after completing all quests you can get from megaton I killed everyone and emptied the entire city of everything of value, then I went to tenpenny tower, sold as much as I could and then blew Megatons nuke. A win/win situation.
With fast travel, it's so much easier than it is in the old games... to the point where a weight limit is almost pointless.
But the idea is to make scavenging difficult and a tradeoff. If you went with low strength, you could carry less.
Similarly, if traders had an infinite amount of money, you could just get all the money you needed at the beginning of the game.
(Not that you couldn't do that now anyway, since you could just fast travel to a place where bad guys respawn and go back and forth).
BTW, do any of you get frequent crashes while using anti-aliasing? I can play hours without a single glitch with AA turned off, but as soon as turn it on, the game crashes within minutes. Updating drivers is not helping and I get the same problem on two different graphic cards (9500GT and 9800GT). From what I understood from various gaming forums, this is a known problem ...
It kinda sucks because the game looks spectacular with high resolution and all the eye candy turned on ...
It kinda sucks because the game looks spectacular with high resolution and all the eye candy turned on ...
Reason #364 why I went to console gaming.
I had serious crashing problems when I had AA set to 8x on my 8800 GTS (sometimes I couldn't go 5 minutes without a crash), but I turned it down to 2x and since then I think my game has only crashed once.
Me too. It's not so much the outcome as how arbitrary and unnecessary it feels. I was wearing an advanced radiation suit and dosed on Rad-X and I still died.
Oh yeah, a lot of the main quest was poorly written. The same thing happens if you have Charon with you. Ugh.
There are just a lot of missed opportunities in the other quests as well, like the Blood Ties quest where there is not follow up with the character who gives you the quest in the first place.
There are just a lot of missed opportunities in the other quests as well, like the Blood Ties quest where there is not follow up with the character who gives you the quest in the first place.
I don't know about that. A lot of the valuable items are looted from areas you can't fast travel from like sewers and the subway. That can mean a ton of long back-and-forth when you start getting into bulky stuff like armor and heavy weapons. It might be realistic but it is annoying from a game play perspective (scavenger traders help alleviate that some but not much).The one thing I hate about these games is how little you can carry and how much money traders have. There's always too much stuff to collect and traders only have a finite amount of cash so you can't always sell your stuff so you've got to wait around for them to save cash up again.
I ended up going back and forth to places from that medical building, I ended up storing everything in the bins outside of it just to make sure I collected everything of value, then it's a task having to keeping jumping back and forth to the bins and traders to sell it all.
I just wish they'd make the game where you can carry a lot more stuff from the beginning and traders have an infinite amount of money to buy everything from you.
One thing I did enjoy was after completing all quests you can get from megaton I killed everyone and emptied the entire city of everything of value, then I went to tenpenny tower, sold as much as I could and then blew Megatons nuke. A win/win situation.
With fast travel, it's so much easier than it is in the old games... to the point where a weight limit is almost pointless.
The Fallout 3 system is a step in the right direction though. Unlimited money with merchants was actually a problem with Oblivion. It got to the point where you could earn the gross domestic product of a small country selling to just about anyone. That essentially makes currency worthless since it's so easily gained.
Caps are still too difficult to get in the beginning and too abundant once you've leveled up a ways but it's a step in the right direction. The cool thing about the system is it's designed to get your bartering as much as selling. Trade the raider armor and weapons for stimpacks and ammo which, along with always being useful, have no weight so you can load up and sell them back to another merchant who has caps.
At that point I usually just dump the stuff I don't need take the more valuable stuff mostly because I want to avoid the loading screens. A lot of my kills come from random encounters near landmarks though, so I just kill them, grab what I can, warp home and then warp back.
It's another reason why Megaton is just the better home to have - one less loading screen.
Oh, I just found this again:
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61346
Someone is basically trying to play through Fallout 2 with an INT of 2 and it basically changes the whole game... including a hilarious challenge where you have to answer a riddle in order to pass a bridge. They tried to do it here by having high SPECIAL or Stat conversation choices, but none really come close to some of the dialog options there.
Imagine going through the game being stupid?
"Me find daddy! Where daddy!"
"Why you three-dog? You man not dog!"
That in itself would be worth a play through. Too bad.
It's another reason why Megaton is just the better home to have - one less loading screen.
Oh, I just found this again:
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61346
Someone is basically trying to play through Fallout 2 with an INT of 2 and it basically changes the whole game... including a hilarious challenge where you have to answer a riddle in order to pass a bridge. They tried to do it here by having high SPECIAL or Stat conversation choices, but none really come close to some of the dialog options there.
Imagine going through the game being stupid?
"Me find daddy! Where daddy!"
"Why you three-dog? You man not dog!"
That in itself would be worth a play through. Too bad.
got this game on friday and I freakin' love it!
I haven't played any of the other fallout games, but this is already on my top 10 list!
I've noticed a lot of similarities between FO3 and Oblivion . . . namely some character animations, some ambient sound effects, and more obviously the stat/inventory/map menu mechanics and the dialog interface . . .
it really saved them a huge amount of work on the framework of the game, AI, player>NPC interactions etc
VATS is really cool
the one thing I HATE is the third person camera view . . . if I want to check out my new armor I go nuts trying to get my guy in the view . . . someone had better come out with a mod that centers the third person view . . . it's totally useless for me other than viewing my character which is a bitch to do with the 'new' over the shoulder crap
given how similar Oblivion and Fallout 3 are I won't be surprised to see some sort of crossover of assets between the two (imagine taking on hordes of daedra with the Waser Wifle!
hehe)
anyway . . . I haven't been keeping track of my time but I believe I'm about 20 or so hours in and
I haven't played any of the other fallout games, but this is already on my top 10 list!
I've noticed a lot of similarities between FO3 and Oblivion . . . namely some character animations, some ambient sound effects, and more obviously the stat/inventory/map menu mechanics and the dialog interface . . .
it really saved them a huge amount of work on the framework of the game, AI, player>NPC interactions etc
VATS is really cool
the one thing I HATE is the third person camera view . . . if I want to check out my new armor I go nuts trying to get my guy in the view . . . someone had better come out with a mod that centers the third person view . . . it's totally useless for me other than viewing my character which is a bitch to do with the 'new' over the shoulder crap
given how similar Oblivion and Fallout 3 are I won't be surprised to see some sort of crossover of assets between the two (imagine taking on hordes of daedra with the Waser Wifle!
hehe)anyway . . . I haven't been keeping track of my time but I believe I'm about 20 or so hours in and
I'm up to the point where the Brotherhood is about to send Liberty Prime to attack the Enclave . . . I have yet to enlist a companion, and I accidentally killed Fawkes when I got out of the Enclave base before it blew up . . . definitely going to be more careful on my second play through
. . . definitely going to be more careful on my second play through
