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Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS**

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  • 5 Skitters *****

    Votes: 15 48.4%
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Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Great episode, it paid off my investment in this show! The new aliens are really creepy. I think this show has really hit its stride now. Even Carter was not annoying.

Oh and I love Moon Bloodgood
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

everybody loves Moon Bloodgood, she's really the only character I've liked on this show
 
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Glad I'm not the only one who jumped out of my chair when the spooky tall guys appeared.
Great to hear Pope use my username when discussing the structure!
The show is getting really interesting. Why would aliens travel all the way here, destroy on a mass scale, then build buildings out of our scrap and even recycle the bullets? I'm wondering if the slicks plow over planets and then leave the skitters do whatever they do with little resources. Now I'm interested in seeing what the warships looked like. I assume they were similar to Mech technology.
Overall, the show's got my interest.

Agreed, good episode. There are several references to the aliens using scrap metal and recycling existing technology - also interesting that they went out of their way in dialog to point out that the structure wasn't especially high tech. I have to wonder if this is a foreshadowing to the same theme used in the film The Day the Earth Stood Still with Keneau Reeves which was, 'aliens are here to save the planet earth form the evil over consuming destructive humans.'

Regarding the kids - the black kid, forget his name, seems to be changing in a different way from Tom's kid. The black kid seems to have telekinetic abilities whereas Tom's kids seems to have enhanced physical abilities. They are both changing - it's just unclear how exactly.
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

^WTF? where have we seen one example of telekinetic abilities from Rick?
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

^WTF? where have we seen one example of telekinetic abilities from Rick?
I don't know about Telekinetic, but, definitely reason to suspect Telepathic abilities. The drawing that led Weaver to his house (either into a trap, or to give him a new lease on life)
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Here's an interesting tidbit, if you go into the show's website and watch a clip where the third alien species are revealed you'll see that they look different than in the broadcast version.
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Here's an interesting tidbit, if you go into the show's website and watch a clip where the third alien species are revealed you'll see that they look different than in the broadcast version.
Which clip?
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

^WTF? where have we seen one example of telekinetic abilities from Rick?
I don't know about Telekinetic, but, definitely reason to suspect Telepathic abilities. The drawing that led Weaver to his house (either into a trap, or to give him a new lease on life)

I suspect there's a residual link between that kid and the others. Maybe what's-his-name's daughter has been harnessed and he's picking up on her memories.

As for the Skinnies; I was kind of expecting something like this to show up. Not a huge leap of deduction I know, the anatomical discontinuity between the skitters and the mechs was pointed out early one, which suggests this invading force is made up of more than one race. My initial impression right from the get-go was that they're something akin the the Combine from Half-Life 2. For those not familiar, it's an empire that expands from place to place, adapting or consuming any resources of use (anything from vehicles to people) and incorporating them into their war machine.

That first impression feels pretty bang on so far. I wouldn't be surprised if the Skinnies aren't even the ones in charge but just middle management/overseer type with the Skitters as something like a slave race. Indeed, the harness inducing a mutation in the kids probably means the Skitters were originally quite different. Perhaps the same basic anatomy (head, arms, legs, tentacles etc.) and the harnesses game them the tough green skin and probably a slew of other enhancements to strength and endurance at the cost of individuality (if they hand any to begin with.)
 
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Great episode.. Sad to see the season conclude next week..

I honestly think that like the Borg, different races are assimilated (via harness) and the skutters are just the most recent example of this. The next planet the skinnies (if that's what we're calling them now) try to take over would presumably have humans along with skutters doing the dirty work.
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Here's an interesting tidbit, if you go into the show's website and watch a clip where the third alien species are revealed you'll see that they look different than in the broadcast version.
Which clip?
This one, hope it works...just click on the clip that says bipedal alien.
http://www.tnt.tv/series/microsite/fallingskies/
What's different?
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Another good episode.

Hmm, they went with the obvious plot twist regarding the "true" alien overlords (who look like Kaminoans), though I'd still have preferred they be microbes or a virus, rather than another literal species of aliens. I guess I can't expect this show to deviate from the expected quite that wildly. The audience will get the idea much more easily with a new alien type that's bossing everyone else around.

Maybe, but Skitters were also around during the attack so maybe other species can be harnessed and converted. Unless they are children, but from the future.

The skitters are no doubt some multi-legged alien species that were the previous victims of the Kaminoans. They're probably octopus-like and much less threatening looking underneath their exoskeleton - pink and soft, perhaps? I don't see the value of the harnesses changing their number of legs, and I love the idea of freaky-looking aliens not being the bad guys after all.

The benefit of this plot twist is that it opens up the story potential to humans figuring out a way to free the skitters from harnesses, and even potentially bringing in a skitter as a recurring character, and exploring its individual personality, figuring out how to communicate with it, etc.

And getting a bit more crazy now, could the humans and liberated skitters commander a spacecraft and take the fight to the Kaminoans? I'd love to see the skitter homeworld!

At the very least, it complicates things for the human fighters, knowing they're shooting at brainwashed slaves rather than evil aliens.

These threads figured this all out from that clue from the think tank in the first episode.
Yeah, the achilles heel of this show continues to be the obviousness of the plot twists. Same thing with the two-partner, we shouldn't be able to figure out the twists just from the frakking previews! :rommie:

However, the Kaminoans plot twist really needed to happen. Otherwise, this show would just be "humans fight aliens," and going into S2, that's going to be a repetitive bore. Now that the skitters are possible allies, story possibilities open wide up!

In an ideal world, I would have preferred a twist that was far less expected, but also one that would open up the story to fresh avenues. I guess that's too much to expect.

Pope suddenly turning into bomb maker supreme, as well as temperamental chef supreme and skitter killer supreme and bad ass supreme is getting to be way too much.
I agree, way too convenient. He's in danger of becoming the Swiss Army Knife character.

Ann appears to be leaping to the conclusion that the skitters were children,
Children of a six-legged alien species. The harness encases them in body armor - useful for a slave army - but there's no reason to change the number of their legs, so that must be their original form. The Kaminoans have been roaming the galaxy, enslaving species and using them as slave armies. Pretty clever/diabolical of them.
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Which clip?
This one, hope it works...just click on the clip that says bipedal alien.
http://www.tnt.tv/series/microsite/fallingskies/
What's different?
Besides everything? The ones in the episode had lighter mottled skin/clothing, *much* more elongated arms and almost no neck at all. Aside from being tall and humanoid, they looked nothing like this.

Perhaps it's early previs or maybe even a little intentional misinformation to save the surprise.
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Here's an interesting tidbit, if you go into the show's website and watch a clip where the third alien species are revealed you'll see that they look different than in the broadcast version.
Skinnies.jpg

Skinnies02.jpg


My guess would be that the top image (from the clip on the website) was unfinished effects work. As you can see in the second image, the camera shots as aired on television no longer feature the focus.

There is also a dialogue line spoken by Tom in the clip that is not present in the aired episode. After he says "I don't know" to Hal's "Who do you think they are?", he responds "They look almost human." The aired episode merely has him say "I don't know," then the alien ship zooms by overhead.


Edited to add: Beaten to the punch by Reverend's description as I was typing this post.
 
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Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

I wouldn't be surprised if the Skinnies aren't even the ones in charge but just middle management/overseer type with the Skitters as something like a slave race.
I don't see the purpose of introducing yet another race of overlords. But to mix things up, maybe there are other slave races out there in the galaxy? We might see some of those as well. Maybe the Kaminoans have an Evil Federation of enslaved worlds. The Dominion should sue for copyright infringement. :D
I honestly think that like the Borg, different races are assimilated (via harness) and the skutters are just the most recent example of this. The next planet the skinnies (if that's what we're calling them now) try to take over would presumably have humans along with skutters doing the dirty work.

Bingo. They're Goa'uld/Borg/Dominion.
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

Sun's ratings are best since the premiere.

Falling Skies is TNT's highest rated show!

After several weeks chugging along at a 1.4 adults 18-49 rating, TNT’s Falling Skies went up to a 1.5 adults 18-49 rating to go along with 4.3 million viewers (the most since the premiere). Even at a 1.4 rating it would’ve been TNT’s top show with adults 18-49, and it was also TNT’s top show with adults 25-54,
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

^WTF? where have we seen one example of telekinetic abilities from Rick?

by bad, telepathic. He identified the commanders home in a drawing. [I really need to memorize the characters names outside of a couple of principles.]
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

I personally think Rick's drawing of rowhouses was just a generic drawing. Correct me if I am wrong, but that type of home is pretty common in parts of Boston. The commander just seized upon it in his desperation/grief.
 
Re: Falling Skies: "What Hides Beneath" Discussion:Comment **SPOILERS*

I personally think Rick's drawing of rowhouses was just a generic drawing. Correct me if I am wrong, but that type of home is pretty common in parts of Boston. The commander just seized upon it in his desperation/grief.
I don't know Boston, but, I imagine it's at least as likely that he didn't live in a house that looked like that, so, still should be at least a 50% chance to be wrong. And it got him to obsess on the place and to go (and fall into a trap, probably). So, that's gotta count for something. Would any other person at the camp have had the same reaction?
 
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