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Falling Skies - Season 5: Discussion and Spoilers

Which I suppose they had to do to avoid any insti-trust when the simulant of Lexxie arrived, but f#########u###k.

And that's another plot point that completely went nowhere and was irrelevant. Had absolutely no impact on the series or even the episode in particular.
 
"When the show would pull itself into a more and more esoteric storyline, relying more and more on technology or sci-fi solutions, or alien inventions, it would really frustrate me. I felt those were just deus ex machinas in sheep's clothing, really. They are easy go-tos and eye candy. And the more interesting storytelling was not so much about who are these aliens and why are they here, but who are we humans? What do we have the capacity to do? Kill each other and for each other. I never tire of those things. So it was a constant push and pull to keep it grounded in a sense of truth, a sense of humanity, while at the same time it's a summer blockbuster show that needs to have some bells and whistles on it." -- Noah Wylie
 
Pope cornholing an Overlord with an M16.

Remember Stargate?

I almost had a stroke because I couldn't understand the level of joy I was feeling when Earth deployed a fleet that could match the Goul'd on a level playing field.
 
So glad the show is over.

Jeff Fahey? Vietnam Vet? So say he's 20 in 1970, making him born in 1950. Which means his character was 65? Really?!

So much time wasted on stupid crap this season. And how are they rebuilding so much so fast? Where's the equipment, gasoline, experienced personnel, and food?
 
^^ It's the only thing in the episode that does make sense. :rommie:

Bringing a person back to life has to be a little easier than bringing back 12 cells that used to have illusions of grandeur.
Nah, it's the other way around. For the baby, all they'd have to do is pop an intact chromosome set into a de-nucleated egg cell-- which is technically cloning, not resurrecting, but we don't know exactly how they brought back Anne, either. With Anne, you've got a complex system in place and, even if they just cloned her, they'd need a way of transferring her memories (and how many of those were lost, especially if that really was the same beach from prior episodes?).

I'm sure there's a reason somewhere why TNT didn't give this show a two-hour finale; the story really needed it, not to mention the fact I would've liked to have seen more militias show up and join this final battle. It was just all so anticlimactic that it leaves me feeling let down in so many ways.
A 2-hour finale would have helped. Then, at least, everything wouldn't have felt so perfunctory.

A whole episode was devoted to one moron with a rifle holding their convoy hostage.
Only to have the guy die in the finale.

Then they sidetracked into Kangaroo courts for 2 episodes instead of building to the finale.
That was really awful and pointless.

And that's another plot point that completely went nowhere and was irrelevant. Had absolutely no impact on the series or even the episode in particular.
The only point there was to show that the modified weapon still worked on Espheni-- but that just raises the question of why the Kraken gave them a weapon that kills humans when it was so easy to not.
 
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I survived five seasons of your attempts to destroy me with the power of unbelievable stupidity and your complete disregard for continuity, story logic, and consistent or realistic characterization.

I can't tell you what a relief it was being able to finally take this intergalactic turd of a show off my DVR where it was being held for years by an alien computer virus introduced in the third season by Hitler Youth alien hybrid child hackers brought back from the dead by the Dark Lord Cthulhu that lives in the Potomac but can only be shown with practical effects that make Ed Wood cringe because we blew our entire budget on creating an undefended spider-queen voiced by Tricia Helfer for Tom to face off with.

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So, how many times have the entire population of Espheni on a planet suffered a mass trauma or died out because their queen tripped on a rock and fell to her death accidentally? Because Tom was sitting there obviously reaching for the glowing alien suppository doomsday weapon for about ten minutes right in front of her without her noticing, so she's clearly not the most attentive being in the universe.

And doesn't it kind of make the 2nd Mass and modern humanity look pretty incompetent if the previous Espheni colonization attempt 1,500 years ago got wiped out by a bunch of Nazca natives with spears? And doesn't it contradict all the previous Espheni schemes to take humans alive if we find out now it was all just about a mother's vengeance and desire to kill them all?

Oh, no, we lost that one guy who was introduced a few episodes ago in that pointless tangent storyline that should have been about building up to the finale instead.

Oh, no, we lost another guy who was introduced a few episodes ago in another pointless tangent storyline that should have been about building up to the finale instead.

Goodbye, redshirts.

Oh, crap, everything connected with Espheni biology is blowing up spectacularly! I bet Ben is in trouble with his spikes. That'll give some real weight to the endin... Nope, he's fine. Not even any concern.

Speaking of those explosions, didn't this seem pretty extensive, like lots of other people in the area would be dying from it?

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Not a word of regret said about how all those exploding flying creatures were the rebel skitters who helped them out once. Screw 'em.

Holy shit, Anne died! It was a really stupid death since I'm pretty sure she'd feel the massive blood loss down her side and would know the signs, being a doctor and all, but hey, at least there were some high stakes consequ... wait, WTF is going on? Why is Tom slowly carrying her off like Scotty carrying his nephew to the bridge when sickbay is the other direction? He can't be taking her to the Dornia ship right, because that's by their camp which they just made multiple references establishing was quite a distance from Washington? Well, okay then, I guess he just walked it in about ten minutes carrying her corpse with a massive wound in his shoulder. Surely the Kraken hasn't just been sitting there in the water the whole time unseen by Espheni forces from the skie... yep, it's still there. Uggh.

Well, that's got to be the height of the stupidit... Oh hell, it's Pope. Wait, how did he know to find Tom here? Tom never took anyone to his secret meeting with the Dornia. Did Pope, covered in burns and barely able to walk, follow Tom there without him noticing? And now he doesn't want to kill him, because he proved he could have done it and that's good enough, so now he can lay down and die dramatically within seconds? What purpose did that scene even serve? We learned nothing new about either character, Pope didn't advance the story in any way by one last sort of redemptive act or by killing someone Tom loved, so it was completely pointless.

Eick said the show was supposed to end with the Dornia bug from the glowing doomsday suppository crawling off into Washington DC when Tom said "We are not alone" to fulfill the Espheni description of them as "The Great Enemy" which was an even bigger threat then they were, but the studio nixed it. I'm glad, because then they might have been tempted to do some TV movies. They still might, just to torment me again.
 
I wonder if the actor who plays Anthony ever gave any interviews, because aside from Pope's gang killing his friend in the first couple episodes of season 1, has he ever done anything? Oh, he decided he was bad, but didn't really do anything, so he came back to the good side, where he didn't really do anything. I think he may be the most useless and pointless character to be a regular on a show. He was tied with Dai, but lasted three more seasons.
 
I wanted to write something but Locutus did that for me. A disappointing ending to a disappointing show, at least it was consistent in that regard.
 
Agreed. It had such a great start and then...PFFT! The first season really gave me hope that things would eventually pick up again. I'm kind of surprised Spielberg would ever allow his name to continue to be attached to something like this without insisting on some kind of course correction. Oh, well. It's all over now. And I honestly don't really know how I feel about that...
 
Do you really think Steven watches TV like a regular person?

He wouldn't know how bad it is first hand, but the people he trusted to tell him if this was turning to shit screwed the pooch.
 
Agreed. It had such a great start and then...PFFT! The first season really gave me hope that things would eventually pick up again. I'm kind of surprised Spielberg would ever allow his name to continue to be attached to something like this without insisting on some kind of course correction. Oh, well. It's all over now. And I honestly don't really know how I feel about that...

Hey, Steven Spielberg also produced seaQuest DSV, including its second season.
 
Sorry I haven't posted in here before but given I was watching the UK run I didn't want to risk spoilers.

Sadly the show ended how I thought it would. I did think they might have the guts to kill off a Mason (hopefully either Hal or Tom) but in the end the Masons were impervious (other than Lexi). Heck even Digon, Anthony, Cochise and Hal's new girlfriend all lived. Sure Pope died but, great as Colin Cunningham has been, he should have died ages ago, so it's just Weaver's stalker who paid the price.

Has anyone ever totted up how much of the overall run time has been given over to Tom Mason speeches? I'm just glad Pope got to tell Tom what he (and I) thought about him!

I guess the show did stay faithful to its sappy origins. It was never terrible, but it was rarely awesome sadly.
 
Um, no. You really don't understand the Pope Character. He was a bit of a bastard that could be eventually talked into doing the right thing, and should have been seen as a hero but everyone still held his past against him no matter how much good he did because they're all stuck up ####s.

Or at least that was Pope up till Sara died. After Sara died he was just a giant "F-You!" who was probably literally insane. It was a clear change in personality, but the stuck up ####s in the 2nd Mass, didn't see that. They just assumed that this was always coming, and it's amazing that he'd put it off as long as he did, becuase they are superficial assholes with the memories of goldfish.
 
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