Fair Haven and Janeway's holographic boyfriend

[Guy Gardener]

If Janeway wanted to admit that she was wrong and pushy, then she should have wound back the program. Closing the barn door after the cow had bolted is a terrible lesson to teach. I wonder how the other Holograms adapted to Michael changing over night, considering they nearly put Voyager to the sword chasing evil spirits in the second episode, and... I wonder what Michael Mark I would have made of Michael Mark II if they had had the occasion to meet? Would either of them agree that Janeway's modifications had been for the best if together they really chewed the issues over?

 

[Triskelion]

I can't believe it was an issue in the first place. I don't wrestle with my photoshops.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But when you go to far, or make an error, you don't think about tabbing "undo" and starting again from first principles?

 

[Triskelion]

what is this..."error" of which you speak? It is unfamiliar concept to me.

 

[Velocity]

Fair Haven was crappy and the "governess in the gothic romance" was even worse. It was as if the writers felt they had to make Janeway have a romantic side, a feminine side, almost a weak side and they didn't know how to write it into the show with any finesse. It just came across all lame and her character suffered for it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You've never read Jane Eyre?

I have a friend also who never read Jane Eyre.

Phoebe: Fine! Okay, all right, so Jane Eyre, first of all, you'd think she's a woman, but she's not. She's a cyborg.
Rachel: A cyborg?! Isn't that like a robot?!
Phoebe: Yeah, this book was light years ahead of its time.
The Teacher: (entering) Sorry I'm late. Let's get started. So, what did everybody think about Jane Eyre?
Phoebe: Umm, Rachel and I were just discussing it and she had some very interesting insights.
The Teacher: Well, go ahead Rachel.
Rachel: Uh, thank you Phoebe. Umm, well, what struck me most when reading Jane Eyre was uh, how the book was so ahead of its time.
The Teacher: If you're talking about feminism, I think you're right.
Rachel: Yeah, well, feminism yes, but also the robots.

 

[Timewalker]

I don't blame anybody for hating the "gothic romance" holodeck stories. I thought they were pure drivel.

But Fair Haven was different... Janeway made a few changes to Michael's program partly because she wanted somebody more equal to her intellectually. As for the other reasons why she made changes... why have an afternoon date with somebody whose wife might show up at any time? It would get a bit awkward explaining to Michael why she was always saying, "Computer, delete the wife." (but wow, do I wish I could do that in real life!)

In the end, Janeway realized that she was so used to being the one in charge, and that could ruin what fun she'd been having with the Michael hologram. So she decided to deny herself further opportunities to make changes and just see how everything turned out -- for better or worse, she essentially gave the Michael hologram the freedom to surprise her.

Since we don't have holographic friends (yet) in real life, none of us can say for sure what we would do in Janeway's situation. I guess it depends on whether or not you consider holographic people to be "real people."

 

[Guy Gardener]

I won't be your friend or lover till you have a university degree in poetry.

That's right, I'm talking to all of you.

That's a massive change to a personality.

Tacking on a decade of education.

I wonder how many other potential lovers she spurned because they didn't have the prerequisite sheepskins? And how many did she tell to come back in four years when they were educated enough to take their pants off in front of her?

Maybe she has lower standards fro real people?

But that's hardly fair.


O.

And the adrenalin amping the sexuality of... Affairs are fun.

 

[Hermiod]

Aside from the hideous stereotyping, I find the fact that "Fair Haven" has a decent, interesting science fiction storyline underneath it all the stone kissing.

An isolated woman creating a man she can change to suit her and then falling in love with her creation is a story that should have been told properly.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Bride of Frankenstein?

Michael was either part of harry, or Harry's child.

Janeway became Michaels mother when she fiddled with his programming.

The Parent Trap?