So anyone actually watch without falling to sleep *looks at Deckerd*. I thought it was another very good episode, myself.
Fades, Beeb 3 9 tonight
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^Yep, it's on series catch up.
I thought the second episode was poorer. They really overdid the geekiness here, and suddenly Paul and MAc sound less like teenagers than fanboys in their thirties. I thought Neil rushing out after a fade he knew was a killer into the back of beyond a ridiculously stupid thing to do, and as plot logic goes "So that's how they can touch people, because they're eating human flesh" is a doozy.
Still enjoyable, but I felt whereas ep 1 rode the line between silly and scary pretty well, the second episode was a bit too knowing.
Still enjoyable, but I felt whereas ep 1 rode the line between silly and scary pretty well, the second episode was a bit too knowing.
^The 80s movie references with the geekiness you mean? Guess that's more the writer's geekiness showing there.
I did wonder how they can eat people if they can't touch.
I did wonder how they can eat people if they can't touch.
Was it? Shows how little I actually know Star Wars.
Hmm, probably better than last week but still continues to be a mixed bag, and is incredibly ill judged at times. Mac's intro, the v bad cgi wings, the blase way his zipping up of his sister's mouth was handled...
So the plan is for the Fades to become fully human again then? That makes sense, even if the method doesn't (seriously did no one at any point in the production query the 'they can touch us cos they eat human flesh' line?)
Paul and Jay's romance oddly continues to be about the best thing about it, but increasingly feels like the words of a 30+ bloke coming out of teens mouths. Paul knows who Paw Dawber is? That's seriously geeky, and Jay's line about "Kids these days don't wait." again seemed more like something someone imagined a teen might say rather than something a teenaged girl would say.
Perhaps not totally fair but I always find myself comparing things like this to Ultraviolet, and usually they fall short. This has potential but every time it does something amazing it feels the need to do something dumb or obvious the next second as if it's embarrassed of what it is.
So the plan is for the Fades to become fully human again then? That makes sense, even if the method doesn't (seriously did no one at any point in the production query the 'they can touch us cos they eat human flesh' line?)
Paul and Jay's romance oddly continues to be about the best thing about it, but increasingly feels like the words of a 30+ bloke coming out of teens mouths. Paul knows who Paw Dawber is? That's seriously geeky, and Jay's line about "Kids these days don't wait." again seemed more like something someone imagined a teen might say rather than something a teenaged girl would say.
Perhaps not totally fair but I always find myself comparing things like this to Ultraviolet, and usually they fall short. This has potential but every time it does something amazing it feels the need to do something dumb or obvious the next second as if it's embarrassed of what it is.
The dialogue does seem painfully like it's being written by someone much older, with only really the banter here and there making up for it. The Twilight lines especially. No self respecting nerd would own a Twilight box set, let alone admit to it. I think the writers have a strange idea of what British teenagers are like. The comments about it being "hotter than expected" and "quite difficult to fit in" did make me chuckle though.
I don't really have a problem with the Twilight lines. There are the odd lines that seem out of place but can live with that. I think in general it is a really good show and lets face it, we're only 3 episodes on. I know that's half the series but it's still 3 episodes. Hopefully they'll have plenty of time to smooth out problems in the future.
So the whole feeing on people to be able to touch thing makes a little more sense now. Passing through organic matter burns, blood hurts but makes them more physical, so the Angelics caused it themselves by using blood tipped bullets to hunt them with making them a little more physical every time they shot at them.
So has everyone stopped watching?
So has everyone stopped watching?
No, I'm still watching.
I'm still not entirely sure I'm enjoying it, but the last episode at least toned down the Mac/Nerdy comments which was good (he's a great character when he isn't spouting geek quotes at thirty a minute)
The touch/flesh thing does make more sense now, but still seems rather curious. Fades it seems can't walk through doors, which seems odd. As someone on another forum said, if you're dead how can you be trapped on a roof, surely you'd just jump? You're not gonna kill yourself after all.
I don't quite follow what the Angelics have been doing for decades either. The impression is that Polus is the first Fade to become corporeal, and this seems to be quite recent given Neil was surprised when he attacked him. If this is the case what was the job of the Angelics before this? I mean Fades couldn't harm/touch the real world for decades so were no threat whatsoever.
There are some interesting ideas at work here (and the notion that Fades began because the huge number of deaths in WW2 'broke the ladder' is great) but the mythology seems half-formed.
Maybe I'm just thinking too much
I'm still not entirely sure I'm enjoying it, but the last episode at least toned down the Mac/Nerdy comments which was good (he's a great character when he isn't spouting geek quotes at thirty a minute)
The touch/flesh thing does make more sense now, but still seems rather curious. Fades it seems can't walk through doors, which seems odd. As someone on another forum said, if you're dead how can you be trapped on a roof, surely you'd just jump? You're not gonna kill yourself after all.
I don't quite follow what the Angelics have been doing for decades either. The impression is that Polus is the first Fade to become corporeal, and this seems to be quite recent given Neil was surprised when he attacked him. If this is the case what was the job of the Angelics before this? I mean Fades couldn't harm/touch the real world for decades so were no threat whatsoever.
There are some interesting ideas at work here (and the notion that Fades began because the huge number of deaths in WW2 'broke the ladder' is great) but the mythology seems half-formed.
Maybe I'm just thinking too much
No, I'm still watching.
I'm still not entirely sure I'm enjoying it, but the last episode at least toned down the Mac/Nerdy comments which was good (he's a great character when he isn't spouting geek quotes at thirty a minute)
The touch/flesh thing does make more sense now, but still seems rather curious. Fades it seems can't walk through doors, which seems odd. As someone on another forum said, if you're dead how can you be trapped on a roof, surely you'd just jump? You're not gonna kill yourself after all.
I don't quite follow what the Angelics have been doing for decades either. The impression is that Polus is the first Fade to become corporeal, and this seems to be quite recent given Neil was surprised when he attacked him. If this is the case what was the job of the Angelics before this? I mean Fades couldn't harm/touch the real world for decades so were no threat whatsoever.
There are some interesting ideas at work here (and the notion that Fades began because the huge number of deaths in WW2 'broke the ladder' is great) but the mythology seems half-formed.
Maybe I'm just thinking too much
See that doesn't bother me too much, seems Mac gets nervous and falls back on what he knows for comfort, and what he knows is the geeky stuff.
The stuff with the being trapped on the roof, I don't know either, seems odd, though it seems it really hurts them to pass through things, so maybe it's not so much he wouldn't want to get down rather than couldn't and John was relying on Paul not knowing what he could do more than anything. I mean he managed to get from half way across Europe home so can't be that difficult.
Maybe the Angelics job before they started becoming dangerous was to try and dispatch the Fades if they didn't ascend. 2 more episodes to go, I guess that sort of stuff can be fleshed out later if it gets more series.
No, you didn't miss it again, I just got round to catching up with episode 4.
This is all assumption on my part, but if prior to WWII Fades getting stuck wasnt a problem, i would assume the Angelics role was simply to give people a helping hand ascending, showing them where to go etc. The fact that the Fades initially went to them for help would imply that their role was a benevolent one, until they decided the Fades were a threat.
I found Mac incredibly annoying in the first few episodes, sure he's a geek but in my experience even the geekiest geek occasionally talks without referencing something geeky.
Once the events of Episode 4 toned him down a bit though he's a much more likeable character.
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