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I have reconnected with a number of friends I had lost touch with over the years.

Same here. I have probably 40 to 50 people I knew in either high school and/or university. Looking forward to a reunion next year for the school I went for just one year.
And really the only thing that I am addicted to in regards to FB is Farm Town. *sigh* I think I need a twelve step program.
I go over that - and then a few weeks later looked at that and farmville. Now it's been over a week since I played any game except starfleet commander. That is my addiction.
As for putting anything on FB that I would feel weird about anyone seeing... I have nothing incriminating. I will complain about work every so often but it is nothing I would really care about others seeing. Besides, I have set myself up so that I can't be searched. I will also do a periodic google search to see if I pop up. (I never do except for my plans for the NX-01.) I think the worst thing is when I do a search for my username and all my posts pop up from here. :lol: But for the most part I have remained anonymous on the web. I may not have anything to hide but at the same time I would prefer to keep myself as private as possible. Anonymity is wonderful. I enjoy being a ghost.

I did a search on my names, and facebook. Nothing. It did leave something to my twitter account, which I don't use much anymore. I do like now with security settings on status updates.
 
You know the best way to keep an employer from finding incriminating material about you on the web? DON'T DO THE STUPID STUFF TO BEGIN WITH. I'm amazed how few people (not you guys - just people in general) seem to get that. People are so worried about privacy and hiding their true selves from potential recrimination. Just be a decent person. Don't do stuff that would prevent you from achieving your goals. Don't maintain relationships that are likely to damage your future. How hard is this?
Sorry, this is silly (and a tad condescending). People makes silly things all the time, not necessarily bad things. Some people like to get drunk sometimes, some people like to play a bit rowdy, some people like do dress up silly. There is nothing wrong with that, nothing that interfere with "being a decent person". That doesn't mean I would like for my future boss to see pictures of me dressed in full klingon attire for Halloween, making silly faces with some mates, or simply the pictures of my last holidays. Different sides of my life, all decent and upstanding, it doesn't mean I want them mixing up.
 
Here's an example of Facebook when it goes horribly wrong: http://facebookfails.com/

Like most of the things on that site can be put into two categories, dumb misspellings/poor word choices that are really pointless to make any big deal over at all, and the people who are just morons in the first place. The majority of the things on there are completely inconsequential.

And an article on the potential long lasting effects of putting something on Facebook:

It’s amazing what a simple Internet search can uncover.

For example, in researching prospects for The Hot List, I came across one particular player’s MySpace page that did not show him in the best of lights.

The problem is pretty straightforward: Jokes that are funny when you’re in your mid-teens tend not to be funny to other groups – in this case women, or most adults in general. But with some very quick searching, I found this prospect was not alone; some of his peers also left an unseemly electronic breadcrumb trail that, I would have to expect, could illicit some pretty damning questions when the NHL draft combine comes up in the summer.

Imagine – you walk into a conference room filled with scouts and executives from an NHL team you idolized as a kid and the first question is about a vulgar comment you made on the Internet. Is it getting hot in here, or is just me?
Not to say that there isn't a problem with some of the things that make it online, but when you really think of the huge number of people that use the internet, it's really not that large of an amount that do these stupid things online. I know plenty of people who are actually sensible about what they have online, it's only the idiots who don't think about what they're doing. But then, even without facebook they'd still be dumb, and I'm sure find some way to make an ass of themselves.

I just think that people completely over-react about facebook and other such sites. Like that guy in the article said, It's not a new problem at all. Yet people go on and on about facebook and myspace.

And as for the original topic in the first place... If they don't want people to friend request them, why have a facebook in the first place? The point of facebook is a place to connect with people you know. Go ahead and friend request them, even if they were completely hidden before. If they don't want to be friends with you, they can hit the ignore button. Then you can move on with your life. It's not a big deal if someone doesn't want to be friends with you on facebook. Sometimes people only want certain people on their facebook, like only their close friends and family, or their close friends only, or maybe they like to be friends with everyone or something. The point is, it's not a big deal. The people that make a big deal out of it are the ones that probably fit into the idiots category I mentioned further above.

You know the best way to keep an employer from finding incriminating material about you on the web? DON'T DO THE STUPID STUFF TO BEGIN WITH. I'm amazed how few people (not you guys - just people in general) seem to get that. People are so worried about privacy and hiding their true selves from potential recrimination. Just be a decent person. Don't do stuff that would prevent you from achieving your goals. Don't maintain relationships that are likely to damage your future. How hard is this?
Sorry, this is silly (and a tad condescending). People makes silly things all the time, not necessarily bad things. Some people like to get drunk sometimes, some people like to play a bit rowdy, some people like do dress up silly. There is nothing wrong with that, nothing that interfere with "being a decent person". That doesn't mean I would like for my future boss to see pictures of me dressed in full klingon attire for Halloween, making silly faces with some mates, or simply the pictures of my last holidays. Different sides of my life, all decent and upstanding, it doesn't mean I want them mixing up.

Yeah, and people understand that. Usually the only real things that cause problems are things like underage drinking, or when there are countless countless pictures of someone being like trashed and passed out on the floor from drinking WAY too much all the time. It's when things get really ridiculous that people start to llok down on that. I have plenty of pictures of myself just being silly and stuff with my friends. Guess what, I'm friends with coworkers and some of my bosses on facebook. I even hang out with a few of my coworkers and one of my bosses outside of work. People, like employers and such, do understand the difference between work and personal lives. They can be very separate things. It's just when things get totally ridiculous and out of hand that it starts to become a problem for employers and people to see. "Oh, my employee who is legally aloud to drink has pictures from a birthday party with some of their friends at a bar posted. Oh look at those faces they're making! Why, he looks like he's having a good time being funny with his friends! Ye gawds! Where are my pink slips!" Um, no. People have more since than that. And if they don't, then they too can be added to my category of morons from farther up my post!

In conclusion...
Facebook+idiots=FAILTIME
idiots+life in general=Fail as well
Facebook+the average joe=No big deal



Edit: My post comes off as rather angry. It's not directed at anyone here... sorry...
 
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You know the best way to keep an employer from finding incriminating material about you on the web? DON'T DO THE STUPID STUFF TO BEGIN WITH. I'm amazed how few people (not you guys - just people in general) seem to get that. People are so worried about privacy and hiding their true selves from potential recrimination. Just be a decent person. Don't do stuff that would prevent you from achieving your goals. Don't maintain relationships that are likely to damage your future. How hard is this?

I enjoy Facebook a great deal. I don't do the application thing. I think the quizzes are lame. (Okay, I took a few of those and found out they were lame. ;)) And I've never tried any of the games. I spend enough time communicating on Facebook without getting into the side stuff. What I love about it is that I do get to reconnect with friends I had lost touch with and keep in touch with extended, distant family. I get to see pictures I wouldn't otherwise see. I find out friend and family news that I otherwise wouldn't know at all, and we all interact much more than we would without Facebook.

I have friended people who later I have unfriended because of their activities. Others end up just being annoying - those I just hide in my news feed. I don't post anything that I'm uncomfortable having everyone see, which means I don't usually post depressed or otherwise highly personal status updates. If I wanted to do that, I'd blog. Facebook is for keeping up, not personal promotion.

Actually, not posting pictures of one's antics on the web is a better idea. Don't brag about the stupid antics, how much you hate your boss, etc. It's those two types of actions that get people in trouble on Facebook.

I explained it to my son like this: If you want privacy, close the door. People who post everything about their lives on FB or MS and bitch about violation of privacy are equal to someone who leaves the front door open to their home and then gripes because strangers come walking through.
 
You know the best way to keep an employer from finding incriminating material about you on the web? DON'T DO THE STUPID STUFF TO BEGIN WITH. I'm amazed how few people (not you guys - just people in general) seem to get that. People are so worried about privacy and hiding their true selves from potential recrimination. Just be a decent person. Don't do stuff that would prevent you from achieving your goals. Don't maintain relationships that are likely to damage your future. How hard is this?

I enjoy Facebook a great deal. I don't do the application thing. I think the quizzes are lame. (Okay, I took a few of those and found out they were lame. ;)) And I've never tried any of the games. I spend enough time communicating on Facebook without getting into the side stuff. What I love about it is that I do get to reconnect with friends I had lost touch with and keep in touch with extended, distant family. I get to see pictures I wouldn't otherwise see. I find out friend and family news that I otherwise wouldn't know at all, and we all interact much more than we would without Facebook.

I have friended people who later I have unfriended because of their activities. Others end up just being annoying - those I just hide in my news feed. I don't post anything that I'm uncomfortable having everyone see, which means I don't usually post depressed or otherwise highly personal status updates. If I wanted to do that, I'd blog. Facebook is for keeping up, not personal promotion.

Actually, not posting pictures of one's antics on the web is a better idea. Don't brag about the stupid antics, how much you hate your boss, etc. It's those two types of actions that get people in trouble on Facebook.

I explained it to my son like this: If you want privacy, close the door. People who post everything about their lives on FB or MS and bitch about violation of privacy are equal to someone who leaves the front door open to their home and then gripes because strangers come walking through.
Exactly, don't be an idiot on facebook and everything will be fine. If you wouldn't walk down the main street of your town or city trashed, or doing something in particular, WHY would you put that online for all those same people to see? Most people get that, but like with everything, the idiots and people in the negative extreme of it get all the attention drawn to them. No one cares about the poeple who aren't idiots about it.
 
^ I actually don't disagree with this. I just don't get why people feel like they can pretend to be one person at work while being completely different away from work and expect no one to find out - even get offended if they do. And when "completely different" means "insulting and disloyal" they're surprised when they get fired and/or lose people's respect. :wtf:
 
^ I actually don't disagree with this. I just don't get why people feel like they can pretend to be one person at work while being completely different away from work and expect no one to find out - even get offended if they do. And when "completely different" means "insulting and disloyal" they're surprised when they get fired and/or lose people's respect. :wtf:

Most people (at least in the US) are self-centered and think everyone owes them. That stems from the "everyone gets a trophy", "no grading with a red pen", and "no one keeps score" movements. No boundaries while growing up has yielded a plethora of individuals who think it's all about them.
 
While it's important to talk about decency and maturity on FB, I think we're veering off-topic here. The original issue was whether or not to friend someone who seemed like he/she didn't want to be bothered.

Like I said before, I don't have any embarrassing or controversial posts, but I do value my privacy. For that matter, I don't use my real name. I googled my nickname myself and didn't come up with any significant results at all. I absolutely don't want my co-workers pretending to be buddies with me on-line.
 
I can't figure the damn thing out. I get notices of "so and so is a friend of your friend." Like I care? I don't know the person.

One of these days, if I watch closely enough, Facebook will recommend that Kevin Bacon be added to my friends list.
 
In conclusion...
Facebook+idiots=FAILTIME
idiots+life in general=Fail as well
Facebook+the average joe=No big deal
Oh, I agree with you. I'm simply not comfortable with that level of fraternity at work. I just like my job and my personal life to stay separate. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid. Not the first time I've been told that, so maybe there is a quantum of truth in that. ;)
 
In conclusion...
Facebook+idiots=FAILTIME
idiots+life in general=Fail as well
Facebook+the average joe=No big deal
Oh, I agree with you. I'm simply not comfortable with that level of fraternity at work. I just like my job and my personal life to stay separate. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid. Not the first time I've been told that, so maybe there is a quantum of truth in that. ;)

Nah, I feel the same way. I almost never associate with coworkers outside of work, and they know next to nothing about my life.
 
^ I actually don't disagree with this. I just don't get why people feel like they can pretend to be one person at work while being completely different away from work and expect no one to find out - even get offended if they do. And when "completely different" means "insulting and disloyal" they're surprised when they get fired and/or lose people's respect. :wtf:

Most people (at least in the US) are self-centered and think everyone owes them. That stems from the "everyone gets a trophy", "no grading with a red pen", and "no one keeps score" movements. No boundaries while growing up has yielded a plethora of individuals who think it's all about them.

Back in my day I walked 20 miles to school in 10 feet of snow uphill, BOTH WAYS. AND WE LIKED IT!!

Good god, not this shit again.. :rolleyes:
 
Most people (at least in the US) are self-centered and think everyone owes them. That stems from the "everyone gets a trophy", "no grading with a red pen", and "no one keeps score" movements. No boundaries while growing up has yielded a plethora of individuals who think it's all about them.

Oh, that's a load. This shit is said about every generation. John Milton even talked about it in a speech to his college (John Milton was alive a long, long time ago, in case you were wondering).
 
Most people (at least in the US) are self-centered and think everyone owes them. That stems from the "everyone gets a trophy", "no grading with a red pen", and "no one keeps score" movements. No boundaries while growing up has yielded a plethora of individuals who think it's all about them.

Oh, that's a load. This shit is said about every generation. John Milton even talked about it in a speech to his college (John Milton was alive a long, long time ago, in case you were wondering).

Yeah, every generation is supposedly going to be the doom of humanity, if you ask anyone from an older cohort.

People in my generation--so-called Millennials--are in the workforce now, and society has not collapsed. Things change, some for the better, some for the worse, but all this doom-and-glooming is ridiculous.

What, exactly, would be a better way to raise the next generation? Shall we have a massive, global war to wipe out half of them? That did seem to be the tradition up until a few generations ago. :p
 
Most people (at least in the US) are self-centered and think everyone owes them. That stems from the "everyone gets a trophy", "no grading with a red pen", and "no one keeps score" movements. No boundaries while growing up has yielded a plethora of individuals who think it's all about them.

Oh, that's a load. This shit is said about every generation. John Milton even talked about it in a speech to his college (John Milton was alive a long, long time ago, in case you were wondering).

Yeah, every generation is supposedly going to be the doom of humanity, if you ask anyone from an older cohort.

People in my generation--so-called Millennials--are in the workforce now, and society has not collapsed. Things change, some for the better, some for the worse, but all this doom-and-glooming is ridiculous.

What, exactly, would be a better way to raise the next generation? Shall we have a massive, global war to wipe out half of them? That did seem to be the tradition up until a few generations ago. :p
Oh, I know all about the "every generation is the worst" spiel, but a lot of news articles about millennials is telling, many of which I've posted here. They drive employers nuts (many, not all) by requiring constant feedback of their job performance, they don't understand what the employee dress code means, their helicopter parents get involved in the job interview negotiation process -- you name it. Hell, the Navy had make changes in boot camp so that all new recruits march in sneakers rather than boots. Seems there were too many complaints about boots being heavy and causing blisters :rolleyes:
 
Oh, that's a load. This shit is said about every generation. John Milton even talked about it in a speech to his college (John Milton was alive a long, long time ago, in case you were wondering).

Yeah, every generation is supposedly going to be the doom of humanity, if you ask anyone from an older cohort.

People in my generation--so-called Millennials--are in the workforce now, and society has not collapsed. Things change, some for the better, some for the worse, but all this doom-and-glooming is ridiculous.

What, exactly, would be a better way to raise the next generation? Shall we have a massive, global war to wipe out half of them? That did seem to be the tradition up until a few generations ago. :p
Oh, I know all about the "every generation is the worst" spiel, but a lot of news articles about millennials is telling, many of which I've posted here. They drive employers nuts (many, not all) by requiring constant feedback of their job performance, they don't understand what the employee dress code means, their helicopter parents get involved in the job interview negotiation process -- you name it. Hell, the Navy had make changes in boot camp so that all new recruits march in sneakers rather than boots. Seems there were too many complaints about boots being heavy and causing blisters :rolleyes:


Get with the times, grandpa. :p

My parents are not involved at all, and I sure as hell would never want them to be, but the other stuff is not unusual to me.

I do think more frequent feedback on job performance would be good. I have expressed that desire on occasion. I don't mean praise, either. I think it's stupid to wait a year to tell somebody, "here are some areas where you could improve." I could improve them right now if you'd bother to bring them up.

Dress codes are also a bit ridiculous if you aren't in a customer-facing job.

And what's wrong with wearing comfortable shoes while marching? Is unnecessary suffering the point of military service?
 
Oh, I know all about the "every generation is the worst" spiel, but a lot of news articles about millennials is telling, many of which I've posted here.

And none of which have been convincing. Even if this generation is filled with moaners, and I don't buy that at all, I'll take it over the past American generations that supported slavery, racism, sexism and the Vietnam War.
 
While it's important to talk about decency and maturity on FB, I think we're veering off-topic here. The original issue was whether or not to friend someone who seemed like he/she didn't want to be bothered.

Like I said before, I don't have any embarrassing or controversial posts, but I do value my privacy. For that matter, I don't use my real name. I googled my nickname myself and didn't come up with any significant results at all. I absolutely don't want my co-workers pretending to be buddies with me on-line.
I commented on that in my really long post a page ago. I think it's perfectly fine to friend request them. If they don't want to be your friend, they can hit the ignore button. The point of being unsearchable and hidden on facebook was so only people THEY wanted to see their profile could. The way facebook is now, even if you DO find their profile, you can set it so that they see nothing but their profile picture, and mutual friends. The point of having facebook is to connect with people you know. If you didn't want people you (may or may not) know to friend request you, don't have a facebook. It is so easy to just hit the ignore button on a friend request if you don't want to be friends with them. And if they hit the ignore button on you, big deal, move on with your life. It's fine.
 
I understand. Of course, I suppose I could display my real name and make my profile public. Then I'd get a ton of invites from co-workers, whom I really don't want to befriend. Suppose I said no and ignored/rejected them; what would happen is they'd slash my tires and threaten me bodily harm and other crazy things. Ergo, it's much easier to pretend I wasn't on Facebook and keep my profile hidden. End of discussion.
 
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