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F*** you Disney!

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Tiberius said:
As long as you aren't going to be selling the things for your own profit, I don't see what the big deal is. it's just creating a backup, after all.

I've copied all of Star trek to an external hard drive. don't get me wrong, I own every DVD. I just copied it so that if I lose the DVD I can still watch it (I paid for the DVD which gives me the right to watch it after all), and it makes it more convenient, because I don't have to sift through hundreds of discs to find the episode I am looking for.
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Do you remember the big deal when they cracked the DVD encryption key?

The problem is that a digital copy is the same as the original. A tape loses fidelity from the first copy let alone further iterations. It was one thing to tape something from a friend in the 80's but it's a whole another to burn a CD duplicate from a friend.
 
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So why aren't there more lawsuits from consumers against copy protection techniques? Doesn't that violate their right to make personal copies? Why is only one side of the equation being protected?
 
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Checkmate said:
So why aren't there more lawsuits from consumers against copy protection techniques? Doesn't that violate their right to make personal copies? Why is only one side of the equation being protected?
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Disney has billions of dollars, everyone else? Not so much.

I'd also assume Disney's "right" to protect their copyright trumps any "right" consumers have to duplicate it.

Sort of on another front of Disney's sucking, pretty much every movie released these days comes with a digital copy for "free." The Tron DVDs? Not so much. The digital copies are only available if you buy one of the high-end sets. :rolleyes:
 
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bigdaddy said:
I fucking own the movies!
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Actually, you don't.

I'm not here to say that's right or anything, but according to US law you do not own that movie. You own the tape, but Disney still owns that movie that's on that tape. Think of it as 'long-term borrowing.'

So you're working from a flawed assumption. You don't own the movie. End of story.

So hey, go ahead get mad about that...but my point is that you should be ticked off at Congress for making that the case, not at Disney for simply enforcing the law.


Checkmate said:
So why aren't there more lawsuits from consumers against copy protection techniques? Doesn't that violate their right to make personal copies? Why is only one side of the equation being protected?
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That's why there are no such lawsuits. You don't own it so how can you have the right to do anything to it?
 
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^Yeah, you want to be angry at someone? Try Sony. They are using the DMCA as an end run around people modifying Sony hardware. After it has been purchased and taken home.
 
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sojourner said:
^Yeah, you want to be angry at someone? Try Sony. They are using the DMCA as an end run around people modifying Sony hardware. After it has been purchased and taken home.
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Yeah, those are the cases where the companies don't find the courts as friendly. Whether it's stuff like this or people jail-breaking iPhones, the courts seem to agree that you can do whatever you want to your own hardware.

But the movies and music itself has always had a much stronger legal lock on it. Sony will probably never be able to legally stop you from modifying their computers, but they can sure as heck get you for copying Spider-Man.
 
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RoJoHen said:
Temis the Vorta said:
RoJoHen said:
Easily my least favorite Disney movie.
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Lady and the Tramp? Dumbo? Pinnochio? Fantasia??? Cmon, Fantasia???????
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I stand by what I said.
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Jesus, have you people never seen Robin Hood from 1973. Easily Disney's worst animated movie.

scotpens said:
Davros said:
You will be waiting a very long time for Song Of The South on blu-ray.
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Which is an issue unrelated to copyright. It’s because of the fucking PC police.
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No shit! Fuck Disney for the vault. But fuck the PC Police even harder for that shit, and just about everything else they do.
 
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Small White Car said:
I'm not here to say that's right or anything, but according to US law you do not own that movie. You own the tape, but Disney still owns that movie that's on that tape. Think of it as 'long-term borrowing.'
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Not to dispute what you said, because you're completely correct... but pre-DMCA, copying purchased media for personal use was covered under fair use. People still have that right as long as there isn't any copy protection schemes in play... which is why it's legal to rip a CD to your MP3 player (which has no copy protection) but not legal to rip most DVDs for similar purposes.

In effect, the DMCA was used as an assault on fair use and a very successful one at that. What the OP was trying to do is in principle covered under fair use... if it wasn't for the DMCA.
 
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^ Exactly! I was just trying to test the thing with something I would use. If I had the money / Disney releases the damn DVDs and I remember when they do (Damn forgot about Bambi for $10) I would obviously rebuy the movies on DVD because it looks better and is the whole movie. It's not like I was trying to copy a VHS (or DVD) I rented to a disc so I didn't need to buy it.

Small White Car said:
bigdaddy said:
I fucking own the movies!
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Actually, you don't.

I'm not here to say that's right or anything, but according to US law you do not own that movie. You own the tape, but Disney still owns that movie that's on that tape. Think of it as 'long-term borrowing.'

So hey, go ahead get mad about that...but my point is that you should be ticked off at Congress for making that the case, not at Disney for simply enforcing the law.
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Borrowing is free, BUYING is not borrowing.

And fuck Congress, I'm for over throwing the government anyways. This is why people (not me of course) download movies - TV - Music "illegally", we... I mean them... don't believe it's illegal just because some asshole rich fuckers say so.
 
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Pretty much. That's not even the half of it in Robin Hood. They even copy their own movie over and over again. I can't tell you how many times there's the exact same shot of the Sheriff walking toward the camera.
 
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Well, there's also the fact that I find the story virtually non-existent, the animation cheap and shoddy (seriously, Snow White looks better and it was made thirty years previously), the characters dull and lifeless (it really is a problem when the only identifiable character is the heartless tyrant villain) and the music utterly forgettable.

Yeah, I don't like it. ;)
 
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