F-word used in Trek XI

[Zeppster]

Wasn't there some swearing in ST:IV the Voyage Home? It's been a while since I watched it, was about to watch it this past weekend, but watched ST:III instead...... didn't the punk on the bus give the finger?

And then there was the song playing on his ghetto blaster:

"I HATE YOU"

Lyrics by Kirk R. Thatcher
Music by Mark Mangini​

(to be sung Allegro con Temptible)

Just what is the future?
The things we've done and said.
Let's just push the button.
We'd be better off dead!


And I hate you!
and I berate you !
and I can't wait to get to you...


The sins of all the fathers,
being dumped on us – the sons
The only choice we're given is:
How many megatons?


So I eschew you!
And I say "SCREW YOU"!
And I hope you're blue too!


We're all bloody worthless,
Just greedy human scum,
The numbers all add up
to a negative sum...


And I hate you!
And I hate you!
And I hate you...too!

​

The guy who wrote that song ended working on some Jim Henson Muppet movies. Ironic huh?

 

[Greg Cox]

"If I were human, I would tell them, go to hell. If I were human."
--Spock, The Undiscovered Country

 

[Alrik]

Cussin' on Trek? Say it ain't so. Thar ain't no precedent....

'Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a ________'

'Well double dumb ass on you!'

'You klingon bastard, you killed my son. You klingon bastard.'

'I otta knock you on your goddamn ass.'

'Now that's damn peculiar.'

'Sonofabitch!'

Nope, never been no cussin' in Trek.

 

[USS Triumphant]

EJMH

Now, make that a conversation between Dante and Randal.

Randal: You think your job is bad? Think about poor Harry Kim. And all that jizz.

Dante: What about Harry Kim? And what does jizz have to do with anything?!

Randal: Well, at least you've gotten promoted to shift manager in the last 7 years. Harry got stuck as the lowliest ensign the entire time Voyager was lost. Even the half-Klingon ex-traitor chick outranked him. And why? Because they needed someone low enough rank to mop the holodecks out after ... you know, like after Chakotay and Janeway had a little pinch-and-squeal. :shudder: And that's not even the worst part.

Dante: There's worse than that?

Randal: Yeah. He was so good at it that after they did get home, instead of promoting him then, Starfleet modelled him to be the EJMH all over the Federation.

Dante: EJMH?

Randal: Emergency Jizz-Mopping Hologram. And now, when the real Harry Kim shows up places, people try to put him to work, if you catch my drift.

Dante: Jeezus!

Customer, under his breath: Seems like they got the wrong Asian - Mr. Sulu would have loved that.

Dante: What was that?!

Customer: Nothing. Pack of Nails, please.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I dont think McCoy ever prefaced "I'm a doctor" with dammit in the series.

 

[Franklin]

"Who the hell are you?"
--Odo's very first line.

And, if Pete Townshend had written the line, it would've been, "Who the fuck are you?" And we've come full circle.

 

[Kirk Only]

I cannot see where swearing adds to any scene..LONG ago didn't Kirk say they didn's swear any more or used that kind of language because humanity has evolved higher than that or something to that affect? And look at it now, kinda went down the sewer...Why can't we just have a clean movie sometime without swearing and sex...just a good clean action packed movie. If we want to hear a swear word we can go about anywhere but can't a movie be an escape from the world?

 

[Islander]

I cannot see where swearing adds to any scene..LONG ago didn't Kirk say they didn's swear any more or used that kind of language because humanity has evolved higher than that or something to that affect? And look at it now, kinda went down the sewer...Why can't we just have a clean movie sometime without swearing and sex...just a good clean action packed movie. If we want to hear a swear word we can go about anywhere but can't a movie be an escape from the world?

Ok. You can evolve from vulgarity but not from sex. It's a biological thing. You can't exist without it. You know, the bees... and the birds...

 

[Greg Cox]

I cannot see where swearing adds to any scene..LONG ago didn't Kirk say they didn's swear any more or used that kind of language because humanity has evolved higher than that or something to that affect? And look at it now, kinda went down the sewer...Why can't we just have a clean movie sometime without swearing and sex...just a good clean action packed movie. If we want to hear a swear word we can go about anywhere but can't a movie be an escape from the world?

That's what Disney movies are for.

In the meantime, STAR TREK is PG-13. And features grown-ups who talk like grown-ups sometimes.

 

[Franklin]

That's what Disney movies are for.

In the meantime, STAR TREK is PG-13. And features grown-ups who talk like grown-ups sometimes.

There are folks who swear they hear someone shout, "Get the fuck outta hear," in a scene on a bus in the Disney movie Enchanted.

 

[HaplessCrewman]

I'd seen the film theatrically a number of times and never noticed it myself either. I discovered it in the open captioning on the DVD.

And, just to be clear, I consider the F-word way more serious a curse than, say, "Hell", "bullshit", "shit", or even "Goddamn" or "Jesus H. Christ!" (sorry, I'm not religious.)

 

[Nerys Myk]

Its just a word

 

[PixelMagic]

For real. Words are just words, and sex is just awesome. So who cares?

 

[Franklin]

Its just a word

We're getting off topic, but I agree. However, the sad thing to me is when it's the only way a person knows how to communicate.
Also, as George Carlin used to say, it's how and when they're used that's more hurtful than just using them.
And when my late mother-in-law (a true steel magnolia) used to say, "Bumfuzzle," I knew what she was thinking.

 

[Zeppster]

Words are neutral, they aren't good or bad, people have motives people are good and bad and mostly somewhere in between.

 

[Nowhere Man]

I say Spock is the real potty mouth in Star Trek.

 

[M'Sharak]

Wasn't there some swearing in ST:IV the Voyage Home? It's been a while since I watched it, was about to watch it this past weekend, but watched ST:III instead...... didn't the punk on the bus give the finger?

And then there was the song playing on his ghetto blaster:

"I HATE YOU"

Lyrics by Kirk R. Thatcher
Music by Mark Mangini​

<snip>

The guy who wrote that song ended working on some Jim Henson Muppet movies. Ironic huh?

I don't know about that. If you check out the interview I linked, you'll find this, a little more than halfway down:

The funny thing was – I got to write and sing that song that was playing on the radio. "I Hate You" [written by Kirk Thatcher and performed by The Edge of Etiquette.] We shot the scene with no sound – there was no music playing. I was just miming to a beat. After we wrapped the movie, the music department was coming to us, and they were playing...like...Duran Duran, or whoever Paramount had some deal with.

I said, "That isn't punk rock music. Punk rock is really raw and gritty and dirty." They said, "Well, we don't really deal with the Sex Pistols and stuff." I said to Leonard, "You know, let me write you a song. I can do a song." I was becoming good friends with the sound editor...Mark Mangini...and a couple of the guys in his sound department. I told Leonard, "We can do a song for you that will sound like a punk rock song. Just let us do it, and you won't have to pay for the rights or anything. And, it will be better than Duran Duran." So I went in with Mark and he wrote the music for it.

Not only did the film's associate producer get to play the punk, but by writing and recording the song himself, he made better (and more authentic) what could have ended up being a really lame scene.

EJMH

Now, make that a conversation between Dante and Randal.

Randal: You think your job is bad? Think about poor Harry Kim. And all that jizz.

Dante: What about Harry Kim? And what does jizz have to do with anything?!

Randal: Well, at least you've gotten promoted to shift manager in the last 7 years. Harry got stuck as the lowliest ensign the entire time Voyager was lost. Even the half-Klingon ex-traitor chick outranked him. And why? Because they needed someone low enough rank to mop the holodecks out after ... you know, like after Chakotay and Janeway had a little pinch-and-squeal. :shudder: And that's not even the worst part.

Dante: There's worse than that?

Randal: Yeah. He was so good at it that after they did get home, instead of promoting him then, Starfleet modelled him to be the EJMH all over the Federation.

Dante: EJMH?

Randal: Emergency Jizz-Mopping Hologram. And now, when the real Harry Kim shows up places, people try to put him to work, if you catch my drift.

Dante: Jeezus!

Customer, under his breath: Seems like they got the wrong Asian - Mr. Sulu would have loved that.

Dante: What was that?!

Customer: Nothing. Pack of Nails, please.

Beautiful.

I cannot see where swearing adds to any scene..LONG ago didn't Kirk say they didn's swear any more or used that kind of language because humanity has evolved higher than that or something to that affect?

I don't think Kirk ever said that, but I'll accept it if you'll point out to me where he said it. To be honest, it sounds more like an altered version of a line once given to Picard in TNG (especially the "evolved" part.)

 

[FreddyE]

..... Damn TNG crew had a sweet deal with those holodecks.

Except for the crewmen who had to come in and mop up the floors in the Holodeck, afterall, somethings arn't holograms in there

Not nessecary...if you believe Riker they "don´t have to do that. The ship cleans itself".

 

[Devon]

I cannot see where swearing adds to any scene.. LONG ago didn't Kirk say they didn's swear any more or used that kind of language because humanity has evolved higher than that or something to that affect?

No.

And look at it now, kinda went down the sewer...

Look at it now? Look at it since the beginning. Please don't tell me that you think Star Trek has never had any cursing it? I can't even believe that.

Why can't we just have a clean movie sometime without swearing and sex...

Yes. How effective it will be when Bones says "Gosh Darnit Jim, I'm a Doctor..."

just a good clean action packed movie.

Nearly an oxymoron!

If we want to hear a swear word we can go about anywhere but can't a movie be an escape from the world?

Oh my.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I shouldn't really comment on this as it is common knowledge that i pretty much have a sewer for a mouth (no comments from the peanut gallery please, LOL)....but i would prefer it if there were no curses in Trek....just for the younger one's sakes.

To me having no curses makes it a more timeless show (or movie). Curses weld it to the present too much.. it's the future!