Excelsior neck details.

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  1. Tosk

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    The forward and rear torpedo launchers have identical detailing in the "nozzles". This area does not, so for my money it is something else.
     
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  2. Captain of the USS Averof

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  3. trekfan39

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    But if you look at the upper areas detail you see that it doesn't match the detail on the torpedo tubes both front and back. The only reason people think they are torpedo tubes is because of the inaccurate MSD on the E-B bridge which was made ten years after the model and not by the guys who designed the ship which is one of the reason I don't buy into them being tubes that and the fact that we are used to torpedo tubes being the ships neck. I could pick out a few other thing wrong with that MSD like shuttles parked in the new impulse engines.
     
  4. Richard Baker

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    The Enterprise B's additional saucer impulse engines were originally intended dual shuttle bays but were changed on the model after the bridge scenes with the MSD were filmed.
     
  5. Captain of the USS Averof

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    Only if you look closely at the above photographs that I've linked you'll see that the upper torpedo launchers do match the detail on the torpedo launchers both fore and aft.
     
  6. B.J.

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    Same conclusion I came to. The details on the fwd secondary hull and the aft details both have a hole in the middle as well as radial ribs. The details on the neck do not have ribs, and most importantly, there is no hole in the middle.

    From http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=2932:
     
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  7. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    ^ Yeah, those things in the neck have no holes, the actual photorp launchers do.

    Though there are things next to the aft launchers that look like the things in the neck. Maybe mega-phasers? :)
     
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  8. Ithekro

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    USS Excelsior does not appear to have these, just doors of some kind.

    Could they instead be some new anti-cloaking system? Counter the newer Klingon cloaking devices and worry the Romulas enough for things to get hostile by 2311?
     
  9. Ar-Pharazon

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    Those "areas" are there on the Excelsior, just not well lit on any of the pics I'm seeing.
     
  10. trekfan39

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    Correct Excelsior had the same detail it was just painted a dark blue and on screen it just looked like to black areas on the neck.
     
  11. publiusr

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    That site had a blueprint of that model but I think it was taken down.
     
  12. 137th Gebirg

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    I'm thinking that they are next-generation upgrades of the "Space-Energy Field Attraction Sensors", similar to the three objects of the same name surrounding the Enterprise's main navigational deflector, and the same three objects on the Reliant (2 on the upper primary hull against the rear superstructure "slant" - #10 on the callouts - and 1 on the top of the rollbar pod - #11 on the callouts). Excelsior has no obvious analogue around its main navigational deflector and these two objects are facing forward like the earlier versions were. There really is no reason for having an extra set of launchers higher up, with a more limited arc of fire and a greater chance of blasting the lower dome off while firing (or, at least, cooking it really good). And, has said by others, the lower launchers are identically detailed to the aft launchers. Four launchers in front is overkill. As militant as Starfleet became in the late 23rd, they still considered themselves an organization of peaceful exploration. It's most likely some kind of sensor array/platform.
     
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  13. The Barracuda

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    They look nothing like launchers and I doubt they'd throw another pair just above the main ones, especially so close to the underside of the dish. They could be sensors but there's already a massive sensor on the bottom of the dish. Considering the unique design of the neck and how it doesn't look like there's any access panels or doors due to the "ribbing", I'd like to think they're some kind of refueling ports.
     
  14. tharpdevenport

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    I think it might be more likely it was just simply leftover parts from Star Wars kits and they thought, "Hey, that might look cool in the dorsal!"

    Looks like the dorsal is ribbed for her protection. Or something like that...