The Guardian of Forever comes pretty close to magic. Not a whole lot was explained about how it did what it did.
TNG never explained how Padds worked either. Doesn't make them "magic".
TNG never explained how Padds worked either. Doesn't make them "magic".
I dont think you have to explain everything, as by definition, a lot of the things we see will be basically impossible to replicate at this point. However, there is a big difference between something like the tricorders and the kind of magic we see on game of thrones.
One is an extension of science as we know it, to encompass a logical need in the future and the other is a need humanity has always had, covered by an inexplicable plot device.
I dont like magic because it not only doesnt follow our rules, but its doesnt really relate to them at all. Furthermore, it seems to show scant reason in the world we are being introduced to. In game of thrones there are magical assassins who can kill anyone. Well thats great, but surely that would destroy the concept of security and completely dominate wars. Also we have smoke monsters killing kings. Well it happens once, - why not more?
In the ST universe there are elements that appear to be magic, but they are usually encased in episodic drama, that compartmentalises them into neat meetings with new cultures. What we dont usually see is stock characters and races such as the klingons and ferengi using magic, because it would mess up the substantive texture of the show. In things like GOT, there is far more "magic" mixed into the texture of the show.
TNG never explained how Padds worked either. Doesn't make them "magic".
I dont think you have to explain everything, as by definition, a lot of the things we see will be basically impossible to replicate at this point. However, there is a big difference between something like the tricorders and the kind of magic we see on game of thrones.
One is an extension of science as we know it, to encompass a logical need in the future and the other is a need humanity has always had, covered by an inexplicable plot device.
I dont like magic because it not only doesnt follow our rules, but its doesnt really relate to them at all. Furthermore, it seems to show scant reason in the world we are being introduced to. In game of thrones there are magical assassins who can kill anyone. Well thats great, but surely that would destroy the concept of security and completely dominate wars. Also we have smoke monsters killing kings. Well it happens once, - why not more?
In the ST universe there are elements that appear to be magic, but they are usually encased in episodic drama, that compartmentalises them into neat meetings with new cultures. What we dont usually see is stock characters and races such as the klingons and ferengi using magic, because it would mess up the substantive texture of the show. In things like GOT, there is far more "magic" mixed into the texture of the show.
but practically the first ever magical powers we see are Charlie Evans who was 'bestowed' human.
but practically the first ever magical powers we see are Charlie Evans who was 'bestowed' human.
Gary Mitchell, Where No Man has Gone Before.
You could have put an 'or' in there to make it look less like you were undermining my argument by being a geek.
but practically the first ever magical powers we see are Charlie Evans who was 'bestowed' human.
Gary Mitchell, Where No Man has Gone Before.
but practically the first ever magical powers we see are Charlie Evans who was 'bestowed' human.
Gary Mitchell, Where No Man has Gone Before.
You could have put an 'or' in there to make it look less like you were undermining my argument by being a geek.
Geek or not, he's right. It isn't undermining your argument by correcting your example.
I'm not a geek
The transporter was magic--how could they be sure they were reassembling everyone's molecules correctly?--and I think the replicator was magic, too. I can understand how the food or beverage was materialized (and even tasted halfway correct), but I never understood how they kept the container separate from the food or drink. Obviously, magic.
Q is the Rudy Coby of godlike beings.
I have no idea what that means.![]()
The Prophets and almost all the things associated with them.
At first it was pretty interesting, but later it practically 'jumped the shark' with magical concepts.
Stone tablets that release spirits when you do a certain chant. Ancient scrolls that blind you if you were not the one meant to read them.
Divine being vs evil being having a magic energy showdown on the station with their magical energies.
By the way, evil energy = red eyes and red energy. Good = blue eyes and blue energy.
It's some type of advanced science and you better believe it .![]()
I'm talking effect, not rationale. Q snaps his fingers and makes things appear, disappear, or change. Same as Bewitched or I Dream of Jeanie.
And the advanced science rationale could just as easily cover the Force...don't make me bring up the midichlorians....
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