Evil twin universe

[chaikov]

In TOS:Mirror, Mirror, Kirk & friends slipped into some «alternate evil twin universe».
The same universe was revisited in DS9:Crossover.
I'm trying to identify ALL episodes involving this evil twin universe. I found:

TOS:Mirror, Mirror
DS9:Crossover
DS9:Through the Looking Glass
DS9:Shattered Mirror
DS9:Resurrection
DS9:The Emperor's New Cloak
ENT:In a Mirror, Darkly

Did I miss any?

 

[Therin of Andor]

I'm trying to identify ALL episodes involving this evil twin universe. I found:

TOS:Mirror, Mirror
DS9:Crossover
DS9:Through the Looking Glass
DS9:Shattered Mirror
DS9:Resurrection
DS9:The Emperor's New Cloak
ENT:In a Mirror, Darkly

Did I miss any?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mirror_universe

 

[E-DUB]

I've often thought that, just as there were a lot of universes similar to the "mainline" Trek universe, that there were a number similar to the "Mirror" universe. In fact, the "Mirror" universe we saw in the DS9 eps may not even be the same universe visited by Kirk and co in "Mirror, Mirror".

For a bit of "fanfic" that I never got around to writing, at least not in this univers, I even postulated the existence of a "Mirror" universe in which the Terran Empire never fell.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I don't know how many novels dealt with the MU, or if you want to read them, but Dark Mirror was a TNG novel and if was friggin' awesome.

One of the best novels in the ST universe.

 

[Mysterion]

I don't know how many novels dealt with the MU, or if you want to read them, but Dark Mirror was a TNG novel and if was friggin' awesome.

One of the best novels in the ST universe.

Dark Mirror is a pretty good book. Have you tried the more recent The Sorrows of Empire? It picks up right after the original Mirror, Mirror episode. Sorrows has also just been followed-up by Rise Like Lions.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I actually haven't read a novel since around the time of Dark Mirror, give or take.

 

[milo bloom]

Dark Mirror came before the DS9 eps and works off the premise that the Terran Empire never fell. So it doesn't fit into the "mainline" Mirror continuity.

But I do remember it being a good read, esp. Mirror-Deanna.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

In fact, the "Mirror" universe we saw in the DS9 eps may not even be the same universe visited by Kirk and co in "Mirror, Mirror".

Well, some Kirk visited the MU depicted in DS9 because they mention that event.

Maybe it was Chris Pine?

 

[Nerys Myk]

In fact, the "Mirror" universe we saw in the DS9 eps may not even be the same universe visited by Kirk and co in "Mirror, Mirror".

Well, some Kirk visited the MU depicted in DS9 because they mention that event.

Maybe it was Chris Pine?

Did they mention his eye color?

 

[Mysterion]

In fact, the "Mirror" universe we saw in the DS9 eps may not even be the same universe visited by Kirk and co in "Mirror, Mirror".

Well, some Kirk visited the MU depicted in DS9 because they mention that event.

Maybe it was Chris Pine?

Well, in the TNG episode Parallels, we see that there at least 285,000 variant timelines in existence.

It's probably fair to assume that at least a few of them are close alternates to the Mirror timeline first seen in TOS. there could easily be one where the Empire is doing well as shown in Dark Mirror, as well as the timeline we saw in DSN where the Empire ain't doing quite so well. Proably a timeline or two somewhere in between those. the events of Mirror, Mirror are quite possibly a pivot point or point of divergence (POD) for these timelines given the cross-dimensional nature of those events.

 

[E-DUB]

If fact, the events of "Mirror, Mirror" might well have been duplicated across a number of "prime" and "Mirror" universes (universi?).

For what it's worh, I remember reading once that the writer of that ep had planned to include dialog suggesting that Kirk and co had not come back to their own universe, but merely one that was "close enough".

 

[BillJ]

I actually haven't read a novel since around the time of Dark Mirror, give or take.

The novel Sorrows of Empire, is one of the top mirror universe stories. Right behind Mirror, Mirror.

 

[Mysterion]

For what it's worh, I remember reading once that the writer of that ep had planned to include dialog suggesting that Kirk and co had not come back to their own universe, but merely one that was "close enough".

Wow. That would have started an argument or two over the last 40 years, huh?

 

[BillJ]

For what it's worh, I remember reading once that the writer of that ep had planned to include dialog suggesting that Kirk and co had not come back to their own universe, but merely one that was "close enough".

Wow. That would have started an argument or two over the last 40 years, huh?

In thirty-five years being a fan I had never heard that before. Can anyone actually provide a source?

The "close enough" line was actually used in a Halloween episode of The Simpsons' where Homer keeps messing up time with a toaster time machine. He finally thinks time is back to normal when the family starts grabbing their food with long, lizard like tongues.

 

[E-DUB]

Regretably, I can't provide a source for that. It's probably on one of those brain cells that was lost during my misspent youth. But I did, fairly recently, read Bixby's "original" non-trek story that formed the seed for "Mirror, Mirror" (writers recycle their own material shamelessly) and it did end in such a fashion. I'll take a look through my paperbacks and see if I can locate it for title and such info.