Evil races cluster****
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Dusty Ayres
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You should really keep this kind of discussion to http://www.spacebattles.com. 
I'd say that if this lot killed one another off, the Federation would be the winner.
The Dominion kicks all their asses from the AQ to the GQ and back. 
The Borg would be the toughest opponents, but their main source of strength is the fact that the cultures they encounter value individuality and would waste precious time and resources trying to un-Borg their own species members who have fallen, and hesitate to obliterate whole starships, planets, star systems, etc to contain the Borg advance.
The Dominion does not have this weakness and can simply clone more fighters to replace the Borged ones they had to destroy. All beings, resources and territory are expendable, with the exception of the Founder homeworld, which is a relatively small piece of territory to defend, and one that can be relocated under duress.
So the Dominion isn't vulnerable to the Borg in the way other empires are. On the flip side, the Dominion has flexibility, creativity and intelligence, which the Borg do not.
The Dominion always keeps the next five or six wars in the back of their mind when fighting the current one.
Warfare against the Borg wouldn't be the Dominion's first choice. The initial strategy for handling the Borg is deflection. The Borg are logical and will attack whoever makes the best target, meaning a combination of military weakness and high levels of technology and population levels.
The Federation and Dominion are equal in levels of technology and population levels, but the Federation has the weakness of valuing individual members of their population and that makes them militarily the weaker target, so the Borg would go after them first.
The Dominion could also deliberately destroy technology and population centers if needed to ensure the Borg find other targets first. Even the most ruthless empires can't just slaughter their own people, since rebuilding their population levels would take too long. The Dominion's fast turnaround time in the cloning vats is the ultimate reason why the Borg would go after every other important power before finally being defeated by the Dominion.
The Borg would be the toughest opponents, but their main source of strength is the fact that the cultures they encounter value individuality and would waste precious time and resources trying to un-Borg their own species members who have fallen, and hesitate to obliterate whole starships, planets, star systems, etc to contain the Borg advance.
The Dominion does not have this weakness and can simply clone more fighters to replace the Borged ones they had to destroy. All beings, resources and territory are expendable, with the exception of the Founder homeworld, which is a relatively small piece of territory to defend, and one that can be relocated under duress.
So the Dominion isn't vulnerable to the Borg in the way other empires are. On the flip side, the Dominion has flexibility, creativity and intelligence, which the Borg do not.
The Dominion always keeps the next five or six wars in the back of their mind when fighting the current one.
Warfare against the Borg wouldn't be the Dominion's first choice. The initial strategy for handling the Borg is deflection. The Borg are logical and will attack whoever makes the best target, meaning a combination of military weakness and high levels of technology and population levels.
The Federation and Dominion are equal in levels of technology and population levels, but the Federation has the weakness of valuing individual members of their population and that makes them militarily the weaker target, so the Borg would go after them first.
The Dominion could also deliberately destroy technology and population centers if needed to ensure the Borg find other targets first. Even the most ruthless empires can't just slaughter their own people, since rebuilding their population levels would take too long. The Dominion's fast turnaround time in the cloning vats is the ultimate reason why the Borg would go after every other important power before finally being defeated by the Dominion.
Hmph. More Vorta propoganda.The Dominion kicks all their asses from the AQ to the GQ and back.
Hmph. More Vorta propoganda.The Dominion kicks all their asses from the AQ to the GQ and back.
That's why they pay me the big bucks!
Species 8472 gets my vote, first of all they don't really exist in our Galaxy, although they can enter it would seem at will, granted the BORG did find a way into Fulidic space it did take some doing, and we all saw how easy it was to for 8472 to destroy a cube with ease, and on a greater scale, destroy an entire planet. The Dominion, BORG, whoever never displayed that kind of destructive power and the willingness to use it. I'm not even sure a Founder could change into species 8472. Finally, Fulidic space must be huge, in Unimatrix Zero in the final scene, Seven mentions that her friend Axum is on a scout ship in the BQ on patrol against any more openings in Fulidic space. Meaning that 8472 territory is in a least the DQ, AQ and BQ it was never mentioned if they were also in the GQ, Your Galaxy will be purged, that was not an idel threat, that is why I think that 8472 is the best bad species...
The Daleks could kick all their asses
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Provided that the Borg don't get their hands on those special torpedoes from Voyager, I'd say Species 8472. With those torpedoes, I'd say the Sphere-builders.
As far as we know, these are the only two species with enough firepower to blow up entire planets. Species 8472 can do it all by themselves, while the Sphere-builders are limited to giving their awesome technology to outside help they've enlisted. This gives Species 8472 the advantage, however they also have an achilles heel in form of the aforementioned torpedoes. In such a case, the Borg would take out 8472 and the Sphere-builders win by default. That is if the sphere-builders' "mercenaries" have enough time to build enough of those superweapons.
As far as we know, these are the only two species with enough firepower to blow up entire planets. Species 8472 can do it all by themselves, while the Sphere-builders are limited to giving their awesome technology to outside help they've enlisted. This gives Species 8472 the advantage, however they also have an achilles heel in form of the aforementioned torpedoes. In such a case, the Borg would take out 8472 and the Sphere-builders win by default. That is if the sphere-builders' "mercenaries" have enough time to build enough of those superweapons.
Yeah right. I saw "In The Flesh". If 8472 are so bad ass why do they bother set up training camps for infiltration? Why don't they just open a rift near Earth and purge the galaxy? That's right they're all talk. They're a one trick take out the Borg pony!
The Founders can infiltrate better than 8472. The Vorta can charm anyone better than that Boothby pretender. The Jem'hadar can take out Galaxy class starships with a single death run. The Dominion took over Cardassia without a sweat. Managed to cause destruction on Earth. Apparently perform complex microsurgey on Federation captains just because they can. Founders can turn into fog that causes Klingons concern. Turn into fire, clouds and warp capable ships. Seperated from their main base, they still managed to regroup and breed new Jem'hadar soldiers. It took Gods and four Alpha Quandrant powers to defeat them. 8472? Barbie Borg took care of them.
Sphere Builders are stuck in another dimension and can't survive in this one. One of their spheres was also destroyed by 22nd Century technology. The Dominion or Borg, at the very least, would make short work of their spheres. They wouldn't be defeated, they just wouldn't be able to continue fighting.
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