Everyone in Federation
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Such fundamental differences might make it impossible for some species to bend under the rules of the Federation without substantial changes within their own societies.
And that could take a very very long time... meanwhile, the Federation isn't an immortal institution. It's also possible -- perhaps even likely -- that it would/will break up eventually...
And that could take a very very long time... meanwhile, the Federation isn't an immortal institution. It's also possible -- perhaps even likely -- that it would/will break up eventually...
We dunno. The farthest into the main line of the Trekverse timeline we've ever seen in detail is 2379, where the Federation certainly does not encompass all worlds and societies. On the other hand, ENT gave us a glimpse into the 26th Century, and were states like the Klingon Empire appear to have joined. So who knows?
That's some chart. I've waited for something like this for years. Canon at all? I wonder if the third dimension was just not taken into account with this. Were they looking upon all Trek places lying in one plane? I wonder how the spiral arms come into this; they aren't indicated. (We're in the Orion arm... I know that.) I'm surprised the Cardassians look so enormous here.
I guess I'll go and check the site this came from now.
I guess I'll go and check the site this came from now.
I just googled it and it was like the second thing that came up : P
Edit: Googled Star Trek Map
*Sorry about double post*
Sol= our Sun.
I tried the URl, and the site appears to have been hijacked.
I tried the URl, and the site appears to have been hijacked.
That maps pretty outdated now, I remember looking at it a few years ago now, probably circa 2000.
it lists First Contact with the Klingons as 2218, which is in itself a fanon myth. But now we know it was 2151
And the Romulans at 2150, it was 2152
Plus why does it not have Trill in Federation space? It's a UFP member
It's a very nice attempt, but the Star Trek: Star Charts are a lot better
it lists First Contact with the Klingons as 2218, which is in itself a fanon myth. But now we know it was 2151
And the Romulans at 2150, it was 2152
Plus why does it not have Trill in Federation space? It's a UFP member
It's a very nice attempt, but the Star Trek: Star Charts are a lot better
We know that the Federation exists at least until the year 3000 but has anyone ever estimated as to how long the Fedration might actually last for? Could it last another thousand or two thousand years, till the year 5000. Can you imagine what the state of the Galaxy would be like even then?
Nope. It's from a website called Star Trek Dimensions, and it's been around for years -- as another poster noted, since before ENT started, actually.
A better map, IMO, can be found in the book Star Trek: Star Charts by Geoffrey Mandel.
No we don't. Everyone just kinda assumed that Crewman Daniels was working for the Federation, but he never claimed to be.
Well, they didn't leave us in the 2350s, they left us in the late 2370s. NEM was 2379. So it would be more sensible to say 2380.
What would it take to bring down the Federation by 2430? Any number of things could do it, including another large-scale war akin to the Dominion War, civil unrest, a break in the UFP-KE alliance, the widespread use of weapons of mass destruction such as subspace weapons established in INS, or a full-scale Borg invasion.
There could be a Federation in the far future but as we don't really know much about what happened in the 500+ years between the end of Nem and the Time travelling Fed seen in VOY/ENT it could easily be a different Federation replacing the one we know that fell at some time.
No. The Dominion wins in the end.
You guys put up a good fight, tho! :thumbsup:
You guys put up a good fight, tho! :thumbsup:
Damn, forgot about that. I'm only good at Terran history -- I have most of the books. 
I always have to refer to several ST books to keep the Trekverse history straight. :thumbsup:-----------
Has anybody seen my chocolate stash? It was here when I left to take a nap...
I've always had a huge dislike of the "star-maps" from various sources. Some of my complains are about how areas of space are coloured as if it were a country. How the Sol system is nowhere near where it actually is in the Galaxy, and my top peeve... the whole placement of the quadrants.
Gamma | Delta
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Alpha | Beta
Shouldn't it be ...
Delta | Gamma
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Alpha | Beta
?
Gamma | Delta
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Alpha | Beta
Shouldn't it be ...
Delta | Gamma
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Alpha | Beta
?
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