I found Errand of Fury today and the last bookin the series was worth the wait. It's certainly fast paced and it's a nice continuation the last book ended. I really liked the other books in this series and it's nice to see the return of Tos books again.I like the look at the other Starfleet officers like Lieutentant west and the other Klingons characters are really adding the story almost feels like you're watching the tv series or a movie.
Errand of Fury by Kevin Ryan
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I read the first trilogy and wasn't impressed by the writing or the characterization. Unless this trilogy is a lot better, I'd be fine with Ryan focusing on his other career as a right wing Islamophobe, so I can ignore him.
Steve,
Let me ask you something, have you actually read my book on Radical Islam? Why do you assume that a writer who speaks out against religious extremism, violence, slavery, intolerance, and the systematic oppression of women, minorities and gays is “Right-Wing?” I’m not sure if that’s a greater insult to the left wing or the right wing.
Of course, none of this has anything to do with Star Trek, and you have admittedly not read the Errand of Fury books. If you want to discuss radicalism and theology further, I’m sure you can find an appropriate religious site.
Kevin Ryan
Let me ask you something, have you actually read my book on Radical Islam? Why do you assume that a writer who speaks out against religious extremism, violence, slavery, intolerance, and the systematic oppression of women, minorities and gays is “Right-Wing?” I’m not sure if that’s a greater insult to the left wing or the right wing.
Of course, none of this has anything to do with Star Trek, and you have admittedly not read the Errand of Fury books. If you want to discuss radicalism and theology further, I’m sure you can find an appropriate religious site.
Kevin Ryan
He's probably just waiting for the "Christianity" edition which covers the same topics.
Kevin has a point. One of my big disappointment with my fellow pinkies over the last few years has been the abandonment of the left's traditional role as defender of the oppressed against religious fundamentalism, at least where Islam is concerned (while maintaining the vigil against radical Christianity and radical Judaism, which does seem hypocritical at times). Just because the right hates something, doesn't mean we should reflexively embrace it. When the Taliban shelled the statues of the Buddha, it was the cultural/intellectual/artistic communities who cried foul... now those same academics seem doggedly determined to act as apologists over violations of ethical principles that they themselves have pioneered over the last few decades, such as women's liberation and gay rights. (Feminist discourses on Islam are particularly absurd, thanks to Third Wave's refusal of the concept of victimization... I've read articles about Egyptian women, for instance, finding empowerment through soap operas of all things... now how do you suppose that stacks up against systematic cultural and political disenfranchisement? Yeah.) Reminds me of how a lot of leftists were unwilling to criticize the North Vietnamese and their communist allies internationally for fear being seen to support the Americans' unjust and manufactured war in that country. Agreeing with the right that a problem exists is not tantamount to endorsing the braindead and oft-criminal methodology used by certain parties to deal with it.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
He's probably just waiting for the "Christianity" edition which covers the same topics.
Pretty much, yeah.
I was amused by the idea of Radical Eye for the Infidel Guy when I first heard about it, and then I noticed who was getting excited about it. If you're not a conservative, sorry about the guilt by association thing. But it often seems that the Americans who get worked up the most about Islam's crimes against humanity turn a blind eye to their own. Or can I assume that, like me, you're against torture and the war in Iraq and in favour of legal abortion and gay marriage? If so, then I'm definitely wrong and unreservedly apologize.
But we're offtopic, I know. FWIW, I've bought the first two EoF books and will buy the third one. And I'll read them. I was disappointed by the first trilogy but I'm always willing to be pleasantly surprised.
Thanks Trent,
The politicization of the human rights debate has really hurt the movement, which really should be universal and above politics. Partly because of political correctness and partly because of some of the other factors you mentioned, we're unwilling to discuss the human rights situation in some parts of the world. For me, the book started with a piece I was writing on women's rights in the radical world, which, you know, is pretty grim.
I'm continually astonished at how many people don't want to talk about the real suffering of real women (or minorities, or gays...) because it conflicts with some political ideology or narrative.
Of course, I'm also astonished at how many people don't want to talk about the many reasons why the Original Series is clearly superior to all that followed--but to each his own.
Kevin Ryan
The politicization of the human rights debate has really hurt the movement, which really should be universal and above politics. Partly because of political correctness and partly because of some of the other factors you mentioned, we're unwilling to discuss the human rights situation in some parts of the world. For me, the book started with a piece I was writing on women's rights in the radical world, which, you know, is pretty grim.
I'm continually astonished at how many people don't want to talk about the real suffering of real women (or minorities, or gays...) because it conflicts with some political ideology or narrative.
Of course, I'm also astonished at how many people don't want to talk about the many reasons why the Original Series is clearly superior to all that followed--but to each his own.
Kevin Ryan
I started Sacrifices of War over breakfast this morning, but I'm only a chapter in so far.
I read it almost 2 weeks ago. Saw it at Walmart the first weekend in Las Vegas while we spent a few days there. It was OK, nothing amazing. It's been awhile but I think I liked the first trilogy more than the second.
EDIT - thanks thrawn, fixed mangled sentence
EDIT - thanks thrawn, fixed mangled sentence
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I've enjoyed the "Errand" books, by introducing new characters, such as Parrish, it gives a fresh perspective on familair stories seen thru the new character's pov.
I really hope more Errand books are forthcoming, I really want to know what happens with those characters next!
I really hope more Errand books are forthcoming, I really want to know what happens with those characters next!
Is the Kevin Ryan that wrote the "errand" books definitely the same Ryan that wrote Radical Eye for the Infidel Guy: Inside the Strange World of Militant Islam?
If so, then I will definitely be reading this book and the "errand" books. I was on the fence regarding Errand, but if the same guy wrote "radical eye" then I am pretty sure I will love Errand.
If so, then I will definitely be reading this book and the "errand" books. I was on the fence regarding Errand, but if the same guy wrote "radical eye" then I am pretty sure I will love Errand.
Given said Kevin Ryan just posted in this thread about both books, I can't see why not!
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