Equinox (Spoilers)

[Guy Gardener]

Sisko had a neurotic breakdown after the death of his wife. They sent him someplace to die with 4 starfleet personnel to share his tired fate of winding down. Dax seems like a god, but Dax holds secrets that are never going to be forgotten and is always gathering new secrets that are never going to be forgotten. No one with true power, who will be forced to do horrible things, even if they are not corrupt want a witness to those events who is going to be alive for the next twelve thousand years "the president was a great man, but his breath stank terribly." O'Brien was sent somewhere safe to raise his family, and Julian was sent somewhere that no one cared about, so that his genetic augmentation would never come to light. DS9 was supposed to be a graveyard for those who'd given up.

Kirk was a child playing games probably right up to the point those Klingon bastards killed his son.

Picard did not live in the real world either. He thought that things were supposed to be fair or upheld by ideals. He'd cross his own people if he thought it was the right thing to do, he'd cross himself if the worm turned.

Archer is pissed off because he doesn't know where all the optimism is. Internally and externally, all he's finding out out there, is that %90 of space is populated by assholes and it's pissing him off, that he has to turn into a prick to fight pricks.

 

[Drone]

Ransom was given a tiny ship, with a tiny crew, and only allowed to go on pure science missions.

Janeway was given a tiny ship and a tiny crew and on her FIRST mission, she's given a weapon of mass destruction to exterminate a Maquis cell.

Ransom is a squint, and Janeway is an assassin.

Neither one of them is well adjusted to work well with normal people.

Janeway steamrolls through opposing ideology, meanwhile Ransom ignores and weaves around anyone elses authority.

They're both assholes.

Sisko had a neurotic breakdown after the death of his wife. They sent him someplace to die with 4 starfleet personnel to share his tired fate of winding down. Dax seems like a god, but Dax holds secrets that are never going to be forgotten and is always gathering new secrets that are never going to be forgotten. No one with true power, who will be forced to do horrible things, even if they are not corrupt want a witness to those events who is going to be alive for the next twelve thousand years "the president was a great man, but his breath stank terribly." O'Brien was sent somewhere safe to raise his family, and Julian was sent somewhere that no one cared about, so that his genetic augmentation would never come to light. DS9 was supposed to be a graveyard for those who'd given up.

Kirk was a child playing games probably right up to the point those Klingon bastards killed his son.

Picard did not live in the real world either. He thought that things were supposed to be fair or upheld by ideals. He'd cross his own people if he thought it was the right thing to do, he'd cross himself if the worm turned.

Archer is pissed off because he doesn't know where all the optimism is. Internally and externally, all he's finding out out there, is that %90 of space is populated by assholes and it's pissing him off, that he has to turn into a prick to fight pricks.

Guy, I have to laud you for gut bustingly bursting the bubble of those millions who adore, mostly, these paragons of virtue and rectitude, who did so much to advance the ethos of the Federation immeasurably throughout the galaxy. Bravo!!!!

 

[Tosk]

I'm not sure that post is going to be read by millions, but you never know.

 

[Catarina]

Guy> would you agree Janeway didn't live up to her assassination potential?

 

[Guy Gardener]

That was a specific mission.

To destroy Chakotay's base whether his cell had been removed of not.

An assassin is someone who kills because of orders( and often payment).

Equinox is the only other time that I can really remember that Janeway was ordered to kill anyone, and that she accepted those orders.

Janeway didn't get within light years of a targetlock on Chakotay's base, and either she had out right been lying tot he space dolphins about her willingness to kill a Starfleet Officer, or she punked out after Ransom had a neurotic break where his sex fantasy started instructing him on proper moral behaviour he should have been aware of already.

Kathy is a terrible Contract Woman.

 

[Drone]

I'm not sure that post is going to be read by millions, but you never know.

Thanks for injecting a sense of reality into my unbridled display of hyperbolic bliss!!! What can I say but Guy can do that to you sometimes!!!!

 

[Deks]

It would have been interesting to see the Equinox crew continue onboard Voyager, but with the Equinox as a ship not being destroyed and taken along for the ride.

The Equinox crew would be rehabilitated over a certain period on Voyager, while a portion of the crew would be transferred to the Equinox (probably Chakotay having temporary command until Ransom would have been deemed fit for duty).

In reality, there was no reason to abandon the Equinox, and once the crew was taken into custody by Voyager, they could have tried making certain amends to the aliens the Equinox crew killed - they are intelligent creatures... so I find it a bit problematic they would demand to kill the crew and destroy the ship... not to mention how they assumed that Voyager's crew would harm them as well just because the Equinox crew did - I mean, a lot of aliens were written in Trek with very single-tracked minds apparently without thinking of other options and contemplating different possibilities - essentially not making assumptions without bias).

 

[Guy Gardener]

Janeway did not judge and sentence her crew for their crimes officially.

Sure, she punished some of them for "stuff" but whatever shit details Kathryn saddled her bad naughty crew with, it was ancillary to actual judgement and sentencing for the crimes that they have done which the law feels compelled to sort through to satisfy Justice.

If Suder got home, 30 years later, on trial for murder, and the rest of his life in a penal colony even if the entire crew forgot about that dude he killed, and started liking the betazoid, there was always a reckoning down the road.

Ditto for Paris and his 30 nights in the Brig, the Equinox 5 and every surviving Maquis' crimes perpetuated on the Federation and the Cardassian Union.

Home meant a trial date for shit that happened maybe 40 to 90 years earlier because processing everyone through the legal system a night after Caretaker would mean that Janeway had prisoners to guard, not crew to keep her ship running.