Equinox crew??

[Lynx]

I just thought some of the earlier Voyager novels felt a bit out of character to me. Maybe it's the ones that were written before any of the show aired. I think Seska was still with them in the one called The Escape.

That's right!
Seska is in the book, not as a villain but a technician and a crewmember.
The events in the story obviously takes place before Seska left, most likely between "Parallax" and "Time And Again". Check the timeline and book reviews on the Kes Website for more information!

I agree that some of the early books are a bit out of character, especially "Ragnarok" where almost all of the characters act a bit weird. But I guess that's because it was written before the series was aired,

 

[stardream]

I remember in one of the early books Paris was treated almost like Wesley. It was almost a 'Shut Up Paris!' situation. Wish I could remember which one.

 

[Tracy Trek]

@Lynx , I was reading some of your reviews of the novels and I have a couple of observations. The one titled The Murdered Sun wasn't so bad. And it did seem like Harry Kim ended up in sickbay in almost everyone of them.

 

[Greg Cox]

To confirm, I wrote the outline for THE BLACK SHORE before the show debuted, based on a twelve-page bible Pocket Books provided me, but did most of the actual writing once the show was on the air.

More behind-the-scenes gossip: I was actually attending a sales conference at a beach resort in Florida when I came up with the basic idea for the book. There I was, down on the beach, soaking up the sun, desperately trying to come up with plot for this new VOYAGER show, when I paused to look around me: sand, sun, waves, people frolicking in the surf.

"Hmm. Suppose Voyager stumbles onto a tropical beach planet just when the crew is badly in need of shore leave . . . ."

I swear to God, that's where The Black Shore came from. My original title was PARADISE, btw, but there was already another Voyager novel titled THE GARDEN, so my editor, John Ordover, didn't want to tread that same ground again. Just as well, I like THE BLACK SHORE better than PARADISE, which wasn't a terribly imaginative title.

 

[Lynx]

As a matter of fact, "The Garden" is one of my favorites too. I like that little twist in the tale at the end of it.

 

[Sophie74656]

To confirm, I wrote the outline for THE BLACK SHORE before the show debuted, based on a twelve-page bible Pocket Books provided me, but did most of the actual writing once the show was on the air.

More behind-the-scenes gossip: I was actually attending a sales conference at a beach resort in Florida when I came up with the basic idea for the book. There I was, down on the beach, soaking up the sun, desperately trying to come up with plot for this new VOYAGER show, when I paused to look around me: sand, sun, waves, people frolicking in the surf.

"Hmm. Suppose Voyager stumbles onto a tropical beach planet just when the crew is badly in need of shore leave . . . ."

I swear to God, that's where The Black Shore came from. My original title was PARADISE, btw, but there was already another Voyager novel titled THE GARDEN, so my editor, John Ordover, didn't want to tread that same ground again. Just as well, I like THE BLACK SHORE better than PARADISE, which wasn't a terribly imaginative title.

Always fun to know some behind the scenes info

 

[Lynx]

To confirm, I wrote the outline for THE BLACK SHORE before the show debuted, based on a twelve-page bible Pocket Books provided me, but did most of the actual writing once the show was on the air.

More behind-the-scenes gossip: I was actually attending a sales conference at a beach resort in Florida when I came up with the basic idea for the book. There I was, down on the beach, soaking up the sun, desperately trying to come up with plot for this new VOYAGER show, when I paused to look around me: sand, sun, waves, people frolicking in the surf.

"Hmm. Suppose Voyager stumbles onto a tropical beach planet just when the crew is badly in need of shore leave . . . ."

I swear to God, that's where The Black Shore came from. My original title was PARADISE, btw, but there was already another Voyager novel titled THE GARDEN, so my editor, John Ordover, didn't want to tread that same ground again. Just as well, I like THE BLACK SHORE better than PARADISE, which wasn't a terribly imaginative title.

As I understand, the last touches of the story must have been made at the end of season 2 because the fates of Seska, Jonas and Suder are mentioned in the book.
Anyway, it's my favorite Star Trek book. I've re-read it many times and it still feel as exciting as the first time I read it which by the way was in March or April 1998.

 

[Greg Cox]

As I understand, the last touches of the story must have been made at the end of season 2 because the fates of Seska, Jonas and Suder are mentioned in the book.
Anyway, it's my favorite Star Trek book. I've re-read it many times and it still feel as exciting as the first time I read it which by the way was in March or April 1998.

Thanks again for the kind words. Hard to believe that book came out more than twenty years ago!

 

[Relayer1]

A novel (or novels) about the seldom /once seen crew would be nice...

 

[Thomas Eugene]

A novel (or novels) about the seldom /once seen crew would be nice...

As for me, I'd like a good Hirogen-centered novel, preferably a trilogy - but it seems there isn't a single VOY book about them ...

 

[Lynx]

A novel (or novels) about the seldom /once seen crew would be nice...

Well, Henley, Dalby, Gerron and Chell plays important roles in some books, most notably "The Final Fury" and "Marooned".

 

[stardream]

As for me, I'd like a good Hirogen-centered novel, preferably a trilogy - but it seems there isn't a single VOY book about them ...

The Hirogen showed up in one of the Destiny novels but it was mostly a TNG plot. The crew of the Aventine (captained by Ezri Dax) and the Enterprise were trying to defeat the Borg and found a space tunnel into the Delta Quadrant and had to fight the Hirogen on their way back out. I thought it was interesting that the crews of the two ships recognized them immediately and knew how to fight them. In another book, whose title I have forgotten, I faintly remember Worf fighting off Hirogen in the holodeck.

To confirm, I wrote the outline for THE BLACK SHORE before the show debuted, based on a twelve-page bible Pocket Books provided me, but did most of the actual writing once the show was on the air.

More behind-the-scenes gossip: I was actually attending a sales conference at a beach resort in Florida when I came up with the basic idea for the book. There I was, down on the beach, soaking up the sun, desperately trying to come up with plot for this new VOYAGER show, when I paused to look around me: sand, sun, waves, people frolicking in the surf.

"Hmm. Suppose Voyager stumbles onto a tropical beach planet just when the crew is badly in need of shore leave . . . ."

I swear to God, that's where The Black Shore came from. My original title was PARADISE, btw, but there was already another Voyager novel titled THE GARDEN, so my editor, John Ordover, didn't want to tread that same ground again. Just as well, I like THE BLACK SHORE better than PARADISE, which wasn't a terribly imaginative title.

Thank you for more input!

 

[Knazzer]

The Voyager morgue?

Neelix's special of the day in the mess hall!

 

[Immolatus]

to think the Equinox would have been home in about 14 weeks.

 

[Lonely Horse]

Here's my theory:
Voyager installed a Shuttle Building Department comprised of various engineering crewmen sometime around season 1 or 2. However, around season 7, Janeway began running out of torpedoes therefore decided to make use of the Equinox crew by creating a new department; the Shuttle and Torpedo Building Department.

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

Honestly, Janeway's attitude towards Equinox crew at the end was, a little too much. That she was angry towards her colleague, Rudy Ransom, to have thrown his principles and Starfleet bible out the windows, was understandable (... even if she did the same on some occasion, not really violating rules but bending them when it suited her!) but to humiliate his former crew in demoting and placing them in subordinate positions on board, was just arbitrary, especially since they were only following orders..., even if, I have to admit that some of them, took a certain pleasure to kill.
As Ransom said to Janeway, it was easy for her to judge his decisions/actions, when her crew and herself have not found themselves in the same position but I'm pretty sure that, even if she held to her principles above all, a great part of her crew (Starfleet AND Maquis) wasn't so quick to follow her position, especially in appalling conditions. They, in the case wher Janeway would be dead, would have done EVERYTHING to survive, even if their conscience said that some of their actions were wrong. And neither Tuvok or Chakotay would have objected.

In fact, what Capt. Janeway could have done was: to put an official reprimand in their files, like she did for Harry and maybe for some other officers, to well scolded them and be assured of their loyalty as Starfleet officers and to re-position them with a best use of their abilities in each department. It would have been smarter from her part. Instead of that, she surely accentuated the feeling of incomprehension and resentment from the former Equinox crew, what is never good when people have to work together and trust their leader!

 

[Sophie74656]

Here's my theory:
Voyager installed a Shuttle Building Department comprised of various engineering crewmen sometime around season 1 or 2. However, around season 7, Janeway began running out of torpedoes therefore decided to make use of the Equinox crew by creating a new department; the Shuttle and Torpedo Building Department.

Yes, this was basically said in the show.

 

[DonIago]

Has there been any discussion of the irony that Janeway holds the Equinox crew accountable for having followed Ransom's orders of dubious morality, but in the course of the episode (and others) frequently upbraids her crew when they don't follow Janeway's own orders of dubious morality?

 

[Sophie74656]

Has there been any discussion of the irony that Janeway holds the Equinox crew accountable for having followed Ransom's orders of dubious morality, but in the course of the episode (and others) frequently upbraids her crew when they don't follow Janeway's own orders of dubious morality?

Do you have an example? What was an order of Janeway's that was moraly dubious?

 

[DonIago]

Let's see...in "Year of Hell" she threatens to deactivate The Doctor when he tells her she needs to take a break.

In "Equinox" she tortures someone and relieves Chakotay of duty when he protests...

Need me to go on?

Apparently it's only wrong when crewmen on other ships don't question their CO.