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Episode IX Speculation and Discussion

JD said:
This kind of ties into the original plan, which was for Leia to be the last Jedi.
JJ Abrams has said that there will be new Force powers introduced in The Rise of Skywalker, and he is aware this will piss some people off. I'm not bothered by it, they've been introducing new powers, and aspects of the Force fairly often since Empire Strikes Back. They've never really laid out a specific number of abilities that the Force gives you, so I don't see why they can't add new powers every now and then.
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I will never understand how new powers can anger people. :shrug:
 
Jedi_Master said:
Nope. That "history" was largely the product of licensed non-canon works for hire (novels, comic books, etc.)
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That's not completely fair. Palpatine's canon backstory is in three film prequels and six seasons of a TV show.

JD said:
JJ Abrams has said that there will be new Force powers
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I'm hoping Rey will rip a cellophane S from her chest and throw it at Kylo. ;)
 
JD said:
This kind of ties into the original plan, which was for Leia to be the last Jedi.
JJ Abrams has said that there will be new Force powers introduced in The Rise of Skywalker, and he is aware this will piss some people off. I'm not bothered by it, they've been introducing new powers, and aspects of the Force fairly often since Empire Strikes Back. They've never really laid out a specific number of abilities that the Force gives you, so I don't see why they can't add new powers every now and then.
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I tend to think of force powers as being well practised ways of manipulating the same underlying essence, not discrete abilities as such. They are all simply practical uses for a character's link to the force, not the culmination of what is possible. An analogy might be the many ways I can use my body, to walk, to run, to swim, to jump, to do yoga, to drive a car, whatever. They all have different goals but they are all manifestations of the movement of muscles and sinew. I could, in theory, learn ballet or yodelling but ultimately I'd still be using the same underlying principles. A jedi can probably use the force in countless ways we never see on screen (in the old EU Jacen was a prime example of this, having learnt to see the recent past and future, levitate and a few other neat tricks. Likewise the New Jedi Order developed a battle meld wherein they would share a portion of each other's mental space in order to fight more efficiently as a team.
 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
People compare Snoke to Palpatine .. like in the sense that we didn't get background on Palpatine so why do we need it for Snoke. Well considering the first trilogy was told from the point of view of a farmer and a truck driver essentially, and only one of those characters meets Palpatine near the end it's understandable. However, by the time we get to the sequels, the SW universe has already been built out, a timeline of sorts has been established.. a history, and someone as powerful and as old as Snoke has to be placed fairly on that timeline, and he can't be just the same thing.. (well I guess he can but it seems unsatisfying). Clearly, Snoke is just a cypher, an obstacle RJ wrote for Kylo to overcome, and he didn't even THINK of what Snoke's backstory is.. RJ confirmed on twitter that like Palpatine he didn't sneed one .. so yeah he is just a cypher.. except the fact that it also drew Luke away from the Force in the awful flashbacks.. so this cypher character is not only terrible.. but it makes great characters into terrible ones, and that he is underwritten by design is even worse
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Truck driver?

Han was a freaking drug and weapon smuggler.
 
fireproof78 said:
Eventually Palpatine's backstory came. It wasn't necessary (and still isn't, for me) to enjoy the OT.
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I agree and didn't say it was necessary, I was solely addressing the claim that Palpatine's backstory was mostly from the old EU.
 
King Bob! said:
Shh... Star Wars is for kids. :shifty:
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You can add to the rap sheet
gang crime
Murder
Killing of law enforcement officers
Desertion
Tax evasion
Human (And alien) trafficking
Illegal animal trafficking
Documentation forging
Possession of multiple illegal weapons
Aiding fugitives
Theft
Terrorism

He is a pretty shitty person and if existed on earth we would probably wanna see him locked up for a long long time.
 
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People have always been entranced by criminality, what was Robin Hood after all? Al Capone? The Mafia?

Gangster films reflect this tension between the morality of the protagonist and the tendency to see them as the plucky underdog. Han Solo is one in a long line of such characters, bad boys who either turn good or are sufficiently interesting for us to overlook the fact.
 
It's not just new powers. It's how they work in the context of the story. It's basically the story. If the story seems off, then the new powers might be one of the reasons.. one of many reasons to point to
 
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