I'm sure Johnson feels a lot more freedom with this film, than with Episode 7.
Episode Eight Pre-Release Thread
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The Force Awakens was made the way that it was, narratively, because Abrams and Kasdan CHOSE to make it that way, not because they were told to.
They were trying to recreate their own personal experiences in seeing ANH for the first time, which is why they cribbed as much as they did from that movie.
They were trying to recreate their own personal experiences in seeing ANH for the first time, which is why they cribbed as much as they did from that movie.
Based on the tidbits gleaned so far, it almost sounds like this movie will mirror ESB in that there will be at least two major plot threads happening simultaneously throughout most of the movie: Rey's training under Luke (the Luke-Yoda storyline), and the Poe/Finn/Rose mission, whatever it is. (Mirroring Han/Leia/Chewie Escape from Hoth ---> Cloud City)
What really interests me is how the story will twist to get them all back together in the second or third acts, if that's how it actually plays out. Looking forward to this one quite a bit!
What really interests me is how the story will twist to get them all back together in the second or third acts, if that's how it actually plays out. Looking forward to this one quite a bit!
And create a safe, familiar, story, for audiences to discover these new characters.
As with any production, there were multiple influences, and they made their choices. I personally enjoyed them very much, and found the characters highly engaging. The storyline was familiar, and yet dynamic enough to draw me along the journey and leave me with a vested interest of what will happen next.
As much as I like ANH, I could watch that one and be done with Star Wars. ESB doesn't have the same draw. Compare that to TFA, where I cannot wait for the next episode because I want to see what happens next.
No. Making the film "audience friendly" had ZERO influence on the narrative choices that JJ Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan made for The Force Awakens, and the way that we know this is by listening to them both speak about the film and about their feelings on Star Wars in general.
The Force Awakens would've made just as much money (if not more) if Abrams and Kasdan hadn't decided to 'imprint' themselves and their own viewpoints on the film's narrative and had simply 'tweaked' the original script handed in by Michael Arndt instead of gutting and scrapping it almost entirely in order to make the movie the way that they wanted.
It wasn't necessary to create a "safe, familiar story for audiences to discover these new characters", as you put it, and the proof is in Rogue One. Nobody working on that movie tried to 'imprint' themselves on it, and, consequently, it is a much better movie than The Force Awakens.
Agree to disagree then. If they wanted to recapture a specific feeling, then they succeeded with me, save for the end.
I'm not saying it was "necessary" because "Star Wars." I'm saying I get it, and I think it was a good choice and made for a good film.
Someone pointed out recently that TFA is not a copy of ANH, but a combined effort to hit all the OT plot points in a single film, with each act being related to each of the OT films in its own way. Act One being the first half or so of ANH, Act Two being the middle of ESB, and Act Three being the last act of RoTJ. Thus clearing the way for TLJ this December.
Are you talking about this video? It's from EC Henry, who is also working on the "Pacific 201" fan film project, and has some great videos about Kelvin universe as well, in my opinion.
I just noticed something new in the trailer when I saw it in front of the new Pirates of the Carribean movie. In the scene with speeders kicking up the red dust, if you look towards the horizon in front of them, you can see a whole line of what appear to be First Order Walkers.
You mean the movie that had Darth Vader, General Tarkin, Princess Leia , Mon Mothma, the Death Star and the ship from the beginning of A New Hope? None of that was an attempt at something familiar?
It was okay. Nothing outstanding. And I'd say that despite Rogue One having all those things I mentioned it didn't do nearly the business that The Force Awakens did
An image has popped up of a TLJ LEGO set which features a very different looking Snoke.
He's human sized, wtih a normal Caucasian skin tone, and he's wearing a tan outfit, instead of the black robes his hologram wore in TFA.
After viewing TFA, I had this idea that Snoke was actually very short, but used the holographic projection to boost his stature. In fact, it crossed my mind that he could be related to Yoda (but that's probably too fan wanky to be plausible).
But then the Lego figure wouldn't look so organic.
Maybe, he engages in a Snoke and Mirrors campaign to keep from being ousted.
"Pay no attention to that figurine behind the curtain!"
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