Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"

[Jackson_Roykirk]

It may not have been a deliberate attempt at suicide. She may have known there was a risk of death but the chances of disabling the tracking device/transponder may have been too great to not risk her own life to cut Commodore Oh and the Romulans off her trail.

That was my take on it.

I'd add that she is in obvious guilt/conflicted over killing Maddox and in keeping the tracker a secret from the others. That guilt probably played a role in her decision to risk the health hazards involved in destroying the tracker the way she did...

...That is, she wasn't trying to commit suicide, but at the same time she now understands the need to disable the tracker for the sake of the crew, and she probably saw the risk of death from her chosen method -- although not a guarantee of death -- as a penance in some ways.

She figured It was her fault they were in that situation, so she felt it was only right to take the risk to help them out of it.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Presumably just killing herself would not stop the junk in her body from being tracked--anything that she took would need to stop that, regardless of what it would do to her body.

 

[Tuskin38]

Chabon said on Instagram that she wasn't trying to kill herself.

 

[cooleddie74]

It was the PIC take on McCoy injecting himself with the serum on Miri's Planet.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The story with Soji is starting to remind me of a webcomic I used to draw, only instead of an Android it was a eugenic shapeshifter.

Thematically it’s similar, on the run from the establishment to protect the rights of an artificially created individual who bears no blame for how dangerous she may be.

If there end up being other androids who are fighting for synth supremacy and try to force Soji to join them that will also be very much along the lines of what I wrote.

 

[Noname Given]

^^^
Oh, look, Picard and Riker in 2424.

 

[Doc Mugatu]

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No offense, but ‘Thad Troi-Riker’ and his death was just a plot device to show the effects of the synth ban by utilizing small-universe syndrome. I doubt it will be brought up again.

It also helped explain why Riker and Troi are in no position to jump back in the saddle and go adventuring with Picard again. Having already lost one child, their top priority is looking after Kestra now.

You are both correct. You could even say the entire Riker family was employed as a plot device. One of the reasons this was such a great episode is because it did cover a lot of ground and felt very organic when doing so.

Seriously, what is "non-Trek dialogue"? ...

That's easy. Words like: "secton," "yahren," "shazbot," or "crathanz." Also "saddle bitch" … Used that in a Trek fanfic story once. Did NOT go over well!

The unconsciousness was just an unfortunate side-effect. Apparently whatever nasty chemical she consumed was supposed to neutralize or short-circuit the tracker somehow. That it was also highly toxic, and might put her in a coma, was a risk she was willing to take.

Don't know how "unfortunate" Jurati would say it is? It is, in my opinion, clearly an act of penance for killing Dr. Maddox and betraying her comrades therefore the more self-inflicted pain and suffering the better it seems she would like it. The writers may also hope it is enough in the fans eyes to absolve her of murder.

 

[Doc Mugatu]

The story with Soji is starting to remind me of a webcomic I used to draw, only instead of an Android it was a eugenic shapeshifter.

Or a take off of "Orphan Black?"

Thematically it’s similar, on the run from the establishment to protect the rights of an artificially created individual who bears no blame for how dangerous she may be.

Dammit! You just spoiled the twist for the next Terminator movie in which an ACLU lawyer (who bears a strong resemblance to Arnold Schwarzenegger) goes back in time to the moment SKYNET becomes sentient in order to protect it's civil liberties.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

It was the PIC take on McCoy injecting himself with the serum on Miri's Planet.

As I mentioned above, I think the difference here is that Jurati sees the risk involved as part of her penance for the wrongs she might feel she committed (even though she might feel she had little choice in committing those wrongs).

McCoy took the risk he took in Miri out of desperation. I don't see desperation as the main reason Jurati risked death, but rather she saw it as a penance/punishment. And even though she might have felt that if she died "so be it," it was the risk that she saw as penance, not death.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

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Don't know how "unfortunate" Jurati would say it is? It is, in my opinion, clearly an act of penance for killing Dr. Maddox and betraying her comrades therefore the more self-inflicted pain and suffering the better it seems she would like it. The writers may also hope it is enough in the fans eyes to absolve her of murder.

Yeah, if that is supposed to e her redemption, and it's handwaved away with "oh well, she thought it was for the good of the galaxy", it won't work with me. Provided it was really her free decision to do it, of course.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Or a take off of "Orphan Black?"



Dammit! You just spoiled the twist for the next Terminator movie in which an ACLU lawyer (who bears a strong resemblance to Arnold Schwarzenegger) goes back in time to the moment SKYNET becomes sentient in order to protect it's civil liberties.

I only saw a few eps of Orphan Black, are they also eugenic super weapons?

The difference between Skynet and Soji is that her choices aren’t certain.

 

[DaveyNY]

yummm

FAAAAAAAAAAAAK!!! .... the tomatoes aren't burnt.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

...The writers may also hope it is enough in the fans eyes to absolve her of murder.

I don't think it will be absolution as much as some explanation/insight as to why she felt killing Maddox was necessary.

Fictional depictions of life don't always need to be so black and white -- i.e., not have only the two possible states of (1) Total Absolution, and (2) Total Condemnation. A TV show or movie can lay out reasons for people doing what they did -- and even reasons that might garner a little sympathy -- without us absolving those people of the crimes they committed.

The writers might be able to make me feel a little sympathy for Jurati without them expecting that I would forgive what the character did.

 

[Racefuel]

Honestly I don't think there's going to be a "forgiveness" arc for Juratti..more so a sacrificial redemption.

 

[AlanC9]

There will be plenty of time to throw her ass into a rehabilitation colony later, won't there?

 

[Gonzo]

Honestly I don't think there's going to be a "forgiveness" arc for Juratti..more so a sacrificial redemption.

If there is a sacrifice it will probably be Jurati sooner or Narek later.

He is going to have to face his missus at some point.

 

[137th Gebirg]

She's second-billing on the show after Stewart - don't think she's going anywhere. She's surfing this wave all to the beach and up on to the boardwalk.

 

[Saul]

Seeing Riker and Troi warmed my heart.
Then Hugh died and it got ripped out.

Episode 7 and Soji tilts her head like Data for the very first time....

 

[urbandefault]

I only saw a few eps of Orphan Black, are they also eugenic super weapons?

This one is.

 

[matthunter]

I can see Soji choosing to forgive Jurati because they've both been the victims of mind-games, and that capacity to empathize convincing Jurati that synths don't have to automatically lead to destruction.