Enterprise voted by fans as most underrated Trek show

[ChristopherPike]

Underrated by whom? The poll doesn't say.

Well... given Star Trek.com is mostly frequented by fans, other fans I'd say.

As far as the general public is concerned, it's all Star Trek. If Enterprise is remembered individually at all, it's probably for being "the one with that guy from Quantum Leap in it". They're all shows featuring aliens with funny shaped ears. Funny foreheads. A crew of 7 or 8 boldly going, with a fresh turn over in actors once a generation. Heck, ask anyone what the last movie was about and they'd say it was a prequel. They don't care about the little things, in the way a fan tends to. It was the authentic story of how Kirk and Spock met, how the Enterprise crew had always got together. Nevermind the alterations to each characters past, the ship itself and the destruction of Vulcan. It's not like they care one way or the other frankly. When maybe they should and stick around, get to know it better.

 

[Deckerd]

I disagree. Several of my (non sci fi) friends and family went to see the last movie and enjoyed it. To dismiss them as somehow dim because they didn't see any faults in it is ridiculous. That film was more mainstream than any of the previous ones. That is the future of Trek and I think it's the fans who don't like it who are overrated. Enterprise doesn't do well compared to the other shows simply because it wasn't as good overall.

 

[Admiral Shran]

Enterprise was so underrated that it's almost sickening. So many people whined about how they were tampering with or contradicting the almighty canon but then JJ butthole Abrams comes along and blows up f-ing Vulcan.

Completely agree.

I just don't get how some people can think both....

1.) Oh my God! ENT looks more futuristic than TOS did! This show sucks!!!!!

2.) Vulcan goes boom = JJ IS A GOD!!!!!

 

[ChristopherPike]

I disagree. Several of my (non sci fi) friends and family went to see the last movie and enjoyed it. To dismiss them as somehow dim because they didn't see any faults in it is ridiculous.

I didn't say they were dim. Merely that any differences don't matter to them, one way or the other.

That film was more mainstream than any of the previous ones. That is the future of Trek and I think it's the fans who don't like it who are overrated.

Clearly there was a desire for a reintroduction of Kirk and Spock on the big-screen. That's all it means. And yes, it is still the future of Trek. Until something else new comes along. It'll then be discarded as old Trek too. At which point, whatever fans claim that as their favourite and who complain at more change, will be regarded as "overrated" too. Whatever that means...

Enterprise doesn't do well compared to the other shows simply because it wasn't as good overall.

I vehemently disagree with that.

 

[SFRabid]

I don't understand the complaint that Enterprise recycles episodes from previous Star Trek series. Detractors state this as if it is something new. I just started TNG from the beginning on DVD. I'm on the second DVD of season 1 and already have watched two episodes that were remakes of TOS.

 

[star]

I don't understand the complaint that Enterprise recycles episodes from previous Star Trek series. Detractors state this as if it is something new. I just started TNG from the beginning on DVD. I'm on the second DVD of season 1 and already have watched two episodes that were remakes of TOS.

I had the same reaction when I rewatched TNG. It was right after watching TOS through. There were a few times where I thought, "Hey! That's a rip-off of a TOS episode."

But at the time TNG aired, it had been 20 years or so since TOS (the show, not the films)--and we didn't have easy access to the old TOS episodes (other than late-night syndication) like we have now. So, they got away with it.

ENT, on the other hand, came in the age of information...and right on top of two other Trek series (which came right on top of TNG). Not only did we have recent Trek series, we also had easy access to TOS. It was much easier to point our finger at ENT and scream "Uncreative theives!"

Honestly, if there had been a few year gap between VOY and ENT (at least 10 years), I think the fans would have been more forgiving and the series would have run for more than 4 seasons. We just weren't willing to put up with a less-than-stellar couple of seasons full of growing pains (for the writers and the cast) anymore like we did for TNG, DS9 & VOY.

Does it make it right? Heck no! Do I believe that ENT was seriously underrated? Hell yeah!

 

[darkshadow0001]

Noticed as well. I agree by a fairly wide margin. It's not my favorite of the five but it's so underrated.

I thought the show was underrated because of the introductions of 24th century aliens/tecnology to the series because it wasn't supposed to be there. At lteast, that's what I remember from coming here while the show was on.

 

[fish11111111111]

Certainly, season 3 is underrated - and okay season 4 - woefully overlooked as one of Star Trek's vintage seasons IMHO.

lokai of cheron,,,,, I love your picture black on one side and white on the other side,...
after 50 quote,,,, I'd able to put my picture,.. I hope you like it,.... when I first got started on it,.... it took some doing,.... me I'm black on one side and pink on the other side,,,, a new breed has emerged,.. and that me,,,,

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I don't understand the complaint that Enterprise recycles episodes from previous Star Trek series. Detractors state this as if it is something new. I just started TNG from the beginning on DVD. I'm on the second DVD of season 1 and already have watched two episodes that were remakes of TOS.

By the time ENT was recycling episodes for the fourth time, everyone had gotten fed up with it.

DS9 is the only series that didn't overdo the episode recycling and it's the best. Not a coincidence.

 

[RAMA]

Underrated by whom? The poll doesn't say.

The world (universe?) at large.

 

[fish11111111111]

I don't understand the complaint that Enterprise recycles episodes from previous Star Trek series. Detractors state this as if it is something new. I just started TNG from the beginning on DVD. I'm on the second DVD of season 1 and already have watched two episodes that were remakes of TOS.

By the time ENT was recycling episodes for the fourth time, everyone had gotten fed up with it.

DS9 is the only series that didn't overdo the episode recycling and it's the best. Not a coincidence.

they may not overdo their episodes,,, and they may not undergo them either,,,
but the DS nine is a pretty good episode altogether,, even though I'm not a total fan of
it ,,, there are some pretty good story lines,,,, I do watch it now and then,,,

 

[fish11111111111]

Underrated by whom? The poll doesn't say.

The world (universe?) at large.

yes the universe is a very big place,,,, and science fiction is even bigger than we can ever imagine,,,,

 

[Temis the Vorta]

No, actually it isn't. Science fiction is created by human brains and therefore is constrained by their limits.

 

[fish11111111111]

No, actually it isn't. Science fiction is created by human brains and therefore is constrained by their limits.

yes human physiologic is quite something we do have our limits,, but at the limits that we can expand,.. even though Star Trek is made by humans,,, we can expand it even further than ever before to out outreach our fascination of the stars and alien life,, what they look like,., Where they come from,./. And just the fascination of it,,

 

[Eddie Roth]

ENT was a rather frustrating affair, as most of you will attest as well. Let's remember back to the first two seasons: Everybody wondered when the show would stop trying to be 1. a TOS clone and when that didn't work out, 2. a TNG/VGR clone. By the time it did come into its own, Season 3, many even among us fans had mostly given up, no? The recycling was a bigger problem on ENT than, say, on TNG because by 2001, every old story had already been told several times - and the ENT writers were often not even very imaginative in how they told their remakes...

Given all that, I think ENT is rated exactly right. DS9 on the other hand was an excellent show that has close to zero respect outside of fan circles. Even at conventions, you can tell that there is a small group of the very devoted, but outside of that, it's all about TOS, TNG and VGR... So I'd say DS9 is more underrated. But that's my perception.

 

[Ulva]

I disagree. Several of my (non sci fi) friends and family went to see the last movie and enjoyed it. To dismiss them as somehow dim because they didn't see any faults in it is ridiculous. That film was more mainstream than any of the previous ones. That is the future of Trek and I think it's the fans who don't like it who are overrated.

My beef with the JJ Abrams movie is that it's action nostalgia and that's no foundation to build on. Oh I enjoyed the movie, but it was painfully clear to me that this was just another Serenity. You've got to have more visions than that to have a lasting product such as a television show.

Enterprise doesn't do well compared to the other shows simply because it wasn't as good overall.

This started already during the latter half of VOY so ENT is in "good" company. It's what happens when TPTB panics and tries to salvage things with cheap (adolescent) tricks. However, for all it's flaws (especially during late season 1 and the whole of season 2) I do enjoy ENT.

I must say though that it's a strange question to ask. Underrated by whom? ENT has always had its supporters and the bashers tend to be people who prefer other Trek (in particular one series that I'm not going to mention right now) and very few of those have changed their mind about ENT (at least not the ones I know).

 

[fish11111111111]

ENT was a rather frustrating affair, as most of you will attest as well. Let's remember back to the first two seasons: Everybody wondered when the show would stop trying to be 1. a TOS clone and when that didn't work out, 2. a TNG/VGR clone. By the time it did come into its own, Season 3, many even among us fans had mostly given up, no? The recycling was a bigger problem on ENT than, say, on TNG because by 2001, every old story had already been told several times - and the ENT writers were often not even very imaginative in how they told their remakes...

Given all that, I think ENT is rated exactly right. DS9 on the other hand was an excellent show that has close to zero respect outside of fan circles. Even at conventions, you can tell that there is a small group of the very devoted, but outside of that, it's all about TOS, TNG and VGR... So I'd say DS9 is more underrated. But that's my perception.

DS tonight is an okay show to watch,, I am not sure about all this shows exactly,,, but I'm pretty sure they're all good to and so are their character's,,, they all have something to portray,,, even when I'm not sure about it exactly,,,, because I end up getting space Channel here in Edmonton,,,,, which also shows those shows anyway,,,,

 

[SFRabid]

... but outside of that, it's all about TOS, TNG and VGR... So I'd say DS9 is more underrated. But that's my perception.

What is VGR? At first I thought VOY, but the statement excludes that. Voyager is the real outcast. At least ENT fans can be considered rebels. But Voyager?

 

[fish11111111111]

... but outside of that, it's all about TOS, TNG and VGR... So I'd say DS9 is more underrated. But that's my perception.

What is VGR? At first I thought VOY, but the statement excludes that. Voyager is the real outcast. At least ENT fans can be considered rebels. But Voyager?

Voyager is a good show,,,, & all of the other Star Trek characters are a very good also,,,, and all of the other characters as well,,,,, what brings Star Trek is the interaction with the other character's,,,, I sense of family,,, that brings them together,,, like a family,,,, that was the very first conception ,,,, the very frist Star Trek was all about family on a pretend world where Ship,,, that would bring them together like no one can,,,,, and a sense of direction as well,,,, from Capt. James T. Kirk and I'll say it all in character,,,, to Dr. Mc coy to the engineer's Scotty,,,, Capt. Janeway and the rest of her crew////and deep space nine,,,, and all of their characters,,,, they'll add a good part in everything they did,,,,

 

[SFRabid]

Don't get me wrong. I like Voyager. I like all Trek and my counter was aimed at the statement "it's all about TOS, TNG and VGR". Voyager frequently is at the bottom of various fan polls. I don't see it getting any extra attention at conventions. Not nearly the level of TOS and TNG. From what I have seen DS9 gets much more love than Voyager. Around here DS9 seems to be considered the fan favorite.