Enterprise Novels

[chrinFinity]

Regarding Rosetta, I also noticed that there is a scene where Phlox walks into the mess hall and has a talk with someone (Trip or maybe Malcolm, or someone else I can't remember) and he refers to Hoshi as "Ensign Hoshi" rather than "Ensign Sato."

Also I noticed spelling and gramattical errors in the book too.

It was a very interesting story, but it was marred needlessly with minor inaccuracies and typos. And can anyone back me up on the klingon cruiser classes and the cloaking? Am I nuts that this stuff gets on my nerves?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I loved Enterprise, but I can't stand the post-series novels. I think the writing's boring and I hate the direction it's gone in. It's the Romulan Bore. I've stopped reading. The incident with the "real" Kobayashi Maru was such a waste of something I'd been waiting for since Enterprise premiered.

Oh I so agree with that one. The whole thing was one giant WTF. THIS is the Kobayashi Maru?!

chrinFinity your avatar is fabulous!

(woops, just realized how necro'd this was and the comment I quoted is nearly a year old)

 

[chrinFinity]

chrinFinity your avatar is fabulous

Thanks, I made it myself. That Phlox be trollin' them humans.

Been planet-side? Probably not infected with alien parasites. BETTER ROLL AROUND NAKED IN BLUE GEL TO MAKE SURE

 

[Christopher]

Regarding Rosetta, I also noticed that there is a scene where Phlox walks into the mess hall and has a talk with someone (Trip or maybe Malcolm, or someone else I can't remember) and he refers to Hoshi as "Ensign Hoshi" rather than "Ensign Sato."

Yeah, that happened in a few early ENT novels. Presumably it was based on the assumption that Hoshi's name followed Japanese naming order with the family name first -- when in fact "Hoshi" is a common given name for girls in Japan and "Sato" is the most common family name, the Japanese "Smith," so her name was undoubtedly following Western name order.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Presumably it was based on the assumption that Hoshi's name followed Japanese naming order with the family name first -- when in fact "Hoshi" is a common given name for girls in Japan

And for communications officers on Battlestars.

(guess this shoots my theory all to hell that nuBSG's Hoshi was named after ENT's... )

 

[Christopher]

Interestingly, "Hoshi" is the Japanese word for "star" -- which is also the translation of Uhura's first name, Nyota. While that wasn't canonically Uhura's first name until 2009, it was widely accepted in fandom and the literature since the 1980s (even showing up in Starlog's official tie-in magazines for several of the TOS movies). So I consider it fairly likely that Hoshi Sato was named as an homage to Uhura.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Regarding Rosetta, I also noticed that there is a scene where Phlox walks into the mess hall and has a talk with someone (Trip or maybe Malcolm, or someone else I can't remember) and he refers to Hoshi as "Ensign Hoshi" rather than "Ensign Sato."

I never noticed that. I probably put it down to Phlox pulling a Neelix-style "Mr Vulcan!" attempt at cuteness.

It was a very interesting story, but it was marred needlessly with minor inaccuracies and typos. And can anyone back me up on the klingon cruiser classes and the cloaking? Am I nuts that this stuff gets on my nerves?

Enterprise already retconned cloaking devices further back in the Trek timeline. The Romulans, Suliban and Xyrillians used them. I don't think it's too much of a leap to say the Klingons (who apparently had D7/K'Tinga-type battlecruisers as far back as 2151) could have gotten access to them too. After all, the Enterprise had a cloak-equipped Suliban pod stored away for more than a season, and in the Mirror Universe they were able to wire it up to cloak the Enterprise itself without too much trouble.

Although Stern then wrote Children of Kings, which was all about the Klingons first developing cloaking devices in Captain Pike's era...
And Star Trek (2009) had Klingon Warbirds decloaking during Kirk's Kobayashi Maru test in 2258.

Something I really liked about Rosetta: That the Klingon Neutral Zone began as a buffer between the Klingons and the trading alliance in the book.

 

[Timo]

I don't think it's too much of a leap to say the Klingons (who apparently had D7/K'Tinga-type battlecruisers as far back as 2151) could have gotten access to them too.

Then again, the very crew that flew this supposedly modern juggernaut was unaware of the existence of invisibility devices in the episode, "Unexpected". While Klingons no doubt gained access to Xyrillian secrets soon thereafter, it would be a bit odd for them to be such competent cloakers in Rosetta already, just four years into the adventure.

On the other hand, D3 being new when D5 is old is not that surprising or contradictory. For all we know, the numbers specify the category of ship (from small scouts to giant battleships, from 1 to 10 or whatever) while the letter specifies the generation (D3 is the fourth frigate design, preceded by C3).

FWIW, the novels often seem to treat the "D codes" as a native Klingon thing, whereas aired episodes and movies leave room for the interpretation that they are a Federation thing (originally a Vulcan thing, since it's T'Pol who names the D5 when it first appears in ENT "Judgment").

I still sort of prefer Stern's Children of Kings take on Klingon Kloaking, but OTOH I like the ENT and novel take on Romulan invisibility much more than the TOS "Balance of Terror" idea of it being merely theoretical and previously, uh, unseen in the late 2260s.

Timo Saloniemi