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That stinks. I don't want to lose those.
@Allyn Gibson - Yeah, too bad about the integrated email client, that was awesome. So was the sidebar (I miss that one most). However, Opera now offers a standalone email client (but I personally always preferred Mozilla Thunderbird).
As for content blocking, there are some pretty good extensions for that. Opera's native content blocking wasn't really that great, to be honest.
Also, backing up bookmarks was a pretty simple and straightforward task, as I recall (although Opera link does have it's advantages).
As for content blocking, there are some pretty good extensions for that. Opera's native content blocking wasn't really that great, to be honest.
Also, backing up bookmarks was a pretty simple and straightforward task, as I recall (although Opera link does have it's advantages).
I don't mean to 'hijack' this thread, but wanted to ask a question about whether or not Surak's Soul, the Daedalus duology, and Rosetta: do they have any significant contradictions when it comes to either the show itself or to the post-finale fiction?
I'm wondering this as well. Do they flesh out threads left dangling, and/or do they play into the relaunch at all?
Hi Everyone,
I'm Max, I'm a beginner to the Star Trek Universe.
Ive watched alot of TNG, and Ent, recently and Original series yeeears ago.
I've never read a Star Trek Novel, But would like to start
with the Prequel era,
1. The Early Years of Zephram Cochran and what exactly caused
the world to split apart into factions ultimately culminating in WW3
2. Any books, Detailing the "Enterprise" series w/ Capt Archer
Please help
Hi Madmax, I just finished watching Enterprise on Netflix and I'm 15 chapters into "The Good That Men Do" I highly recommend this book as a jumping on it is AWESOME
The only possible connection is the appearance of Donna "D.O." O'Neill, the NX-01's gamma-shift commander; she makes her first appearance in What Price Honor?, and reappears (in very minor roles) in the Daedalus duology, Last Full Measure, and Rosetta before going on to reappear in multiple "relaunch" novels.
Cool, thanks.
But, like, also... reading The Buried Age, for instance, provides a great depth of understanding of the early TNG characters, and so reading makes the TV show better, because you feel like you get the people more. Do these novels have that sort of impact in any way? I find a lot of the characters on TV kind of badly characterized, sort of similar to early TNG in that respect; am I going to get any new appreciations here?
But, like, also... reading The Buried Age, for instance, provides a great depth of understanding of the early TNG characters, and so reading makes the TV show better, because you feel like you get the people more. Do these novels have that sort of impact in any way? I find a lot of the characters on TV kind of badly characterized, sort of similar to early TNG in that respect; am I going to get any new appreciations here?
I knew about Donna O'Neill's presence in the 'relaunch' stuff, but what I'm really interested in is whether or not Surak's Soul, the Daedalus duology, and Rosetta have any blatant inconsistencies with regards to ENT itself the way that By the Book and What Price Honor? do.
Based on their synopsis blurbs, it sounds like Surak's Soul and Rosetta do exactly that since they're based primarily around T'Pol and Hoshi, respectively.
Based on their synopsis blurbs, it sounds like Surak's Soul and Rosetta do exactly that since they're based primarily around T'Pol and Hoshi, respectively.
I do recall Rosetta having a few continuity issues. Cutler is incorrectly called Nurse rather than Crewman, and the crew answers to a different admiral than Gardner, who was the guy who routinely gave them their orders at that point in the series (though only his Mirror Universe counterpart was ever actually seen). I think there are one or two other issues I can't recall. Memory Beta says it references the Azure Nebula, which according to Destiny wouldn't have existed yet as of this novel's timeframe. Also there's the whole thing with it introducing a whole vast multispecies civilization that was never referred to in any Trek stories later in the timeline. True, the civilization was said to be in decline, but still, you'd think the species involved would still be around in some capacity.
^ Thanks, Christopher. That's exactly what I wanted to know.
The Azure Nebula is mentioned once in a throwaway line, as an alternate name for the so-called 'Ch'los K'tangol', so I just assume we're talking about a different dust cloud. Since "Azure Nebula" seems to be a secondary usage here, maybe early human traders and explorers listed it - "there's an azure nebula that way, I've been past it", and when the Federation turned its eyes to that region a decade or so later it saw a big sprawling azure cloud and said "oh, yup, there it is. Azure Nebula".
At the very least, it's one of those very small contradictions that shouldn't have any impact on someone's enjoyment.
As for the Thelasian Confederacy, we could always follow through on the implication
that the Klingons absorb them, perhaps helping explain how the Klingons go from being a sprawling culture of feuding raiders to an empire that can confidently boast that "half the quadrant" is learning to speak its language? Maybe the next generation of Klingon warships used engines built by Pfau, H'ratoi and Conani?
It does require some squinting to fit, certainly, but I think it can be slotted into the continuity if one wants it to be there (I do, because I enjoyed Rosetta).
You did, of course, make a continuity reference to Rosetta in Friends With The Sparrows.
Every other episode of TOS had a Xindi redshirt just 'round the corner, but we kept missing them.
Not really, because ENT made a point of placing Xindi territory very far away, so it's plausible that even the 24th-century boundaries of the known powers don't encompass them. (There was one episode that put it only 50 light-years away, but that contradicts every other reference so it's best dismissed as an error.) Rosetta, on the other hand, places the territory smack dab in the middle of what will later be Federation and Klingon territory.
What Price Honor?, Surak's Soul, Daedalus, and Rosetta are all fairly character-led, starring Malcolm, T'Pol, Trip, and Hoshi (at least nominally). Of these, I found What Price Honor? the best, as it definitely provides more insight into Malcolm than the television series ever did. It is still my favorite Enterprise novel (though I will admit I gave up on the Enterprise novels after the shit that was The Good That Men Do).
The other ones are all right, with Surak's Soul probably being the weakest.
Christopher answered my question about Rosetta, but I'm still waiting for an answer re: the other novels.
Surak's soul has an interesting Hoshi Sato storyline there's a mysterious alien lifeform that causes a lot of problems and endangers the crewHoshi has to learn to communicate with it.The Vulcans have a small role in the book.We get to see T'Pol has rethink her Vulcan ideas as well in this book when it comes to the situation of the away mission and the aftermath of things happening on alien planet goes wrong.
^ That's not really telling me what I'd like to know. I'd like to find out if there's anything in Surak's Soul and the Daedalus duology that is inconsistent with Canon.
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