Enterprise E Ready Room

[Ro_Laren]

I caught the tail end of Nemesis on BBC America tonight. At the end of the scene where B4 was singing Blue Skies to himself in the Ready Room, Picard walked out the exit door of the Ready Room. However, instead of appearing on the bridge (as he would if he were exiting the Ready Room on Enterprise D), Picard ended up in a corridor. I haven’t seen a schematic of the Enterprise E, so I am unfamiliar with a lot of the layout of the ship. Does Picard’s Ready Room have two exits: one to the bridge and another to a corridor (kinda like Sisko’s Ready Room on DS9)? Or does Picard’s Ready Room only have an exit to a corridor? I thought that I remembered Picard exiting his Ready Room onto the bridge in First Contact. Either I have a fuzzy memory, or the Ready Room has two exits, or the Ready Room was moved for some reason. Does anyone know?

 

[Clark Terrell]

I caught the tail end of Nemesis on BBC America tonight. At the end of the scene where B4 was singing Blue Skies to himself in the Ready Room, Picard walked out the exit door of the Ready Room. However, instead of appearing on the bridge (as he would if he were exiting the Ready Room on Enterprise D), Picard ended up in a corridor. I haven’t seen a schematic of the Enterprise E, so I am unfamiliar with a lot of the layout of the ship. Does Picard’s Ready Room have two exits: one to the bridge and another to a corridor (kinda like Sisko’s Ready Room on DS9)? Or does Picard’s Ready Room only have an exit to a corridor? I thought that I remembered Picard exiting his Ready Room onto the bridge in First Contact. Either I have a fuzzy memory, or the Ready Room has two exits, or the Ready Room was moved for some reason. Does anyone know?

The captain's ready room is typically on the starboard side of the bridge in Sovereign-class ships, which contrasts with their being on the port side in Galaxy-class vessels. Here's a schematic of Picard's ready room that may help.

Edit: I just looked at the screen captures from the end of Nemesis, and it looks like Picard's conversation with B4 is in his quarters and not his ready room, which is why he exits into a corridor instead of the bridge.

 

[Captain Rob]

I also caught Nemesis on BBCA. The scene with B4 seems to be some generic office somewhere. The scene previous with Riker saying goodbye, shows the ready room and you can see the bridge through the door before it closes. The layout for the ready room is all wrong for it's location. The scene where the bridge is hit and the viewscreen is blown out. Should have taken the ready room with it.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

^^

Which would have been a really good reason for Picard to use another generic office with a corridor exit instead of his regular ready room.

 

[HaventGotALife]

I caught the tail end of Nemesis on BBC America tonight. At the end of the scene where B4 was singing Blue Skies to himself in the Ready Room, Picard walked out the exit door of the Ready Room. However, instead of appearing on the bridge (as he would if he were exiting the Ready Room on Enterprise D), Picard ended up in a corridor. I haven’t seen a schematic of the Enterprise E, so I am unfamiliar with a lot of the layout of the ship. Does Picard’s Ready Room have two exits: one to the bridge and another to a corridor (kinda like Sisko’s Ready Room on DS9)? Or does Picard’s Ready Room only have an exit to a corridor? I thought that I remembered Picard exiting his Ready Room onto the bridge in First Contact. Either I have a fuzzy memory, or the Ready Room has two exits, or the Ready Room was moved for some reason. Does anyone know?

We've never seen that set before the B-4 scene. The ready room is shown in the movie several times. Perhaps the most important scene is seen in the ready room--Picard trying to convince Shinzon to embrace his better angels. The ready room is where the Dr. Crusher tells Picard that Shinzon is dying. It's where Riker exits the Enterprise (with a handshake that calls back to Encounter at Farpoint). That office where he is talking to B-4 isn't his quarters, either. We see Picard in "New Worlds" and talking to Beverly in his quarters. His desk isn't like that at all. It's more likely these are B-4's quarters. This isn't meant to be snarky--it's a genuine question--have you seen the movie in awhile?

 

[F. King Daniel]

I also caught Nemesis on BBCA. The scene with B4 seems to be some generic office somewhere. The scene previous with Riker saying goodbye, shows the ready room and you can see the bridge through the door before it closes. The layout for the ready room is all wrong for it's location. The scene where the bridge is hit and the viewscreen is blown out. Should have taken the ready room with it.

The ready room exists in special 5th dimensional space, rendering it immune to physical damage (there's no room for it on the Enterprise model, just the bridge itself and lounge behind)

 

[Timo]

In theory, there would be room for the Ready Room if it and the Bridge were sunken by one level, or perhaps half a level... Many of the movie bridges appear to be physically implausible unless we assume such sinking.

This shouldn't be an impossible assumption. The Bridge and the Ready Room do not have portholes to establish exact location (the portholes of the Ready Room aren't visible on the outside no matter how low the set sinks or how much it is rotated!), while the Lounge with its easily identifiable windows is separated from the Bridge by short alcoves or corridors (potentially staircases!) and the camera never walks through those to reveal how high or low the Lounge is in relation to the Bridge.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Clark Terrell]

In theory, there would be room for the Ready Room if it and the Bridge were sunken by one level, or perhaps half a level... Many of the movie bridges appear to be physically implausible unless we assume such sinking.

This shouldn't be an impossible assumption. The Bridge and the Ready Room do not have portholes to establish exact location (the portholes of the Ready Room aren't visible on the outside no matter how low the set sinks or how much it is rotated!), while the Lounge with its easily identifiable windows is separated from the Bridge by short alcoves or corridors (potentially staircases!) and the camera never walks through those to reveal how high or low the Lounge is in relation to the Bridge.

Timo Saloniemi

The only time I remember being able to see directly into a captain's ready room is at the beginning of "Good Shepard," when the camera zooms in on Janeway as she looks out of the viewport of her office. There's also that shot of Picard in "The Best of Both Worlds," but it's debatable if that shot is accurate, given that he seems to be looking out a small forward viewport, which doesn't fit with how his ready room is oriented relative to the bridge.

 

[Timo]

There are more like three times in TNG where Picard looks out of that E-D window slit IIRC. And it doesn't face forward - it faces slightly aft. This is also supported by the various "indoors" shots of warp streaks flying past that particular porthole.

I guess the apparent portholes in other skippers' or ships' Ready Rooms and assorted other facilities of dubious physical location might be display screens instead, set on window emulation. Except with Archer on NX-01, probably.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Lance]

I caught the tail end of Nemesis on BBC America tonight. At the end of the scene where B4 was singing Blue Skies to himself in the Ready Room, Picard walked out the exit door of the Ready Room. However, instead of appearing on the bridge (as he would if he were exiting the Ready Room on Enterprise D), Picard ended up in a corridor. I haven’t seen a schematic of the Enterprise E, so I am unfamiliar with a lot of the layout of the ship. Does Picard’s Ready Room have two exits: one to the bridge and another to a corridor (kinda like Sisko’s Ready Room on DS9)? Or does Picard’s Ready Room only have an exit to a corridor? I thought that I remembered Picard exiting his Ready Room onto the bridge in First Contact. Either I have a fuzzy memory, or the Ready Room has two exits, or the Ready Room was moved for some reason. Does anyone know?

We've never seen that set before the B-4 scene. The ready room is shown in the movie several times. Perhaps the most important scene is seen in the ready room--Picard trying to convince Shinzon to embrace his better angels. The ready room is where the Dr. Crusher tells Picard that Shinzon is dying. It's where Riker exits the Enterprise (with a handshake that calls back to Encounter at Farpoint). That office where he is talking to B-4 isn't his quarters, either. We see Picard in "New Worlds" and talking to Beverly in his quarters. His desk isn't like that at all. It's more likely these are B-4's quarters.

The 'B-4 room' is definitely its own room, distinct from other sets like the ready room and Picard's quarters. I'm not sure where that scene is meant to be. John Logan's script specifies it as being "PICARD'S CABIN", but the set itself bears no resemblance to Picard's quarters as seen earlier in the movie. It's a lot smaller for a start. It's more like an office, but again it isn't the ready room, so unless Picard has got a second office somewhere else on the ship...

I'm banking on it being just a generic office that Picard is talking to B-4 in. Last time we see B-4 he's been deactivated in Geordi's lab. Maybe it's an Engineers office of some sort? On the same deck as engineering?

 

[EmperorTiberius]

The window is horizontal, which would indicate engineering section. The position of the dry dock also points to this. It makes sense that Picard would use another office while bridge is being repaired, or may be the entire bridge module is being replaced.

 

[Finn]

^We saw Picard and Riker in the ready room in the very scene before that one...

 

[Clark Terrell]

^We saw Picard and Riker in the ready room in the very scene before that one...

We don't know how much time passes between the two scenes, though. It's possible Picard was moved to another office so the bridge could be repaired, in which case it makes sense that his ready room was closed off for a few days.

 

[Finn]

^Uh… no.

First of all, they were able to stand around on the main bridge after they hit that reman ship. Picard felt safe enough to go to his ready room afterwards.


They were definitely in the ready room before that scene with B4. We even could tell it was the main bridge outside the door. And Picard's pause after Riker exited implied he was thinking of B4 which led us to the next scene.

 

[Clark Terrell]

^Uh… no.

First of all, they were able to stand around on the main bridge after they hit that reman ship. Picard felt safe enough to go to his ready room afterwards.

I'm not talking about safety. I'm talking about accessibility. If the bridge was being repaired, it's possible Picard would not have had access to his ready room for an unspecified period of time.

They were definitely in the ready room before that scene with B4. We even could tell it was the main bridge outside the door.

Yes, but that was presumably before the Enterprise returned to space dock. We don't know what happened once the ship was moored in place and repairs were started.

And Picard's pause after Riker exited implied he was thinking of B4 which led us to the next scene.

He may have been thinking of B4, but that doesn't mean he went straight to his quarters.

 

[Finn]

Uh no.

Bynars working on the bridge didn't keep Picard from the ready room.

The bridge was full of people working as if all were well in the galaxy.

Picard wouldn't let space dock workers keep him from going to his ready room.

 

[Clark Terrell]

Bynars working on the bridge didn't keep Picard from the ready room.

The Enterprise wasn't severely damaged when the Bynars were aboard.

The bridge was full of people working as if all were well in the galaxy.

At that particular moment, perhaps. But that says nothing about what happened later.

Picard wouldn't let space dock workers keep him from going to his ready room.

It's not a question of authority. Often times when repairs are being made, adjacent sections are closed off temporarily to allow workers to effect repairs with a minimum of interference. Even the captain of a starship has to abide by certain regulations and guidelines.

 

[EmperorTiberius]

^We saw Picard and Riker in the ready room in the very scene before that one...

It doesn't matter. When the time comes to shut down the power and drop the forcefields, the only way you could get in there is in EV suit

 

[Ensign Ro]

I caught the tail end of Nemesis on BBC America tonight. At the end of the scene where B4 was singing Blue Skies to himself in the Ready Room, Picard walked out the exit door of the Ready Room. However, instead of appearing on the bridge (as he would if he were exiting the Ready Room on Enterprise D), Picard ended up in a corridor. I haven’t seen a schematic of the Enterprise E, so I am unfamiliar with a lot of the layout of the ship. Does Picard’s Ready Room have two exits: one to the bridge and another to a corridor (kinda like Sisko’s Ready Room on DS9)?

What a smart Ro you are.

Well Ro, I think you found a problem with the movie. Recall, the bridge and the Ready Room are on Deck 1. Deck 1 is the smallest of all the decks as it has the bridge and a few other stuff we do not notice. So walking into a corridor, and then just walking gives you the feeling that deck must be large as it has a number of people around. Second, not all the background people were officers or to be more common, ranking officers that should be on deck 1 in the first place.

So that Ready Room must be more or less the conference room that can be anyplace on the ship.