It probably will.
ENTERPRISE design in the new film? (How many changes?)
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That design is sweet. I don't see why it wouldn't be somewhere along those lines. Why is it that people tend to jump at all of the reports that say, "The ship will be redesigned," but they completely ignore the reports from the writers that the ship will will not have drastic changes?
Why do people feel the need to change everything when something is wrong. The Enterprise was one of those things that was right. TOS got almost everything right. That's why we love it. Now can it be done again ? Why not. We have the technology. It's rocket science, that's all. Even GR couldn't do it again.
I like it too. I like Gabe's as well (not nearly as much, I must admit). But I like them as fan art. The original is more than just a sweet design (it is--damn near perfect) but it is also iconic and has strong sentimental value to a great many people. I just can't see how a rational cost/benefit analysis which takes that factor into account along with the likelihood that most non-fans won't care one way or the other yields up: "Hey, I got a better idea! Let's sex her up!"
Nostalgia and sentiment will not earn the studio back its 150 million, much less break even on marketing or turn a profit.
An analysis that would lead to a redesign would be one that concludes that the old look of Trek will not attract any attention publicity-wise or seem intriguing to youngsters. We don't know whether they have, in fact, reached that kind of conclusion but what is pretty obvious is that the studio and producers aren't betting on Trek's "sentimental value" this time out.
An analysis that would lead to a redesign would be one that concludes that the old look of Trek will not attract any attention publicity-wise or seem intriguing to youngsters. We don't know whether they have, in fact, reached that kind of conclusion but what is pretty obvious is that the studio and producers aren't betting on Trek's "sentimental value" this time out.
I'm the crazed old-skool fan who would squeal with absolute ecstasy if Vektor's 1701 glided onto the silver screen.
If she's going to be "updated," let a genuine artist take the reins. As was the case with the original.
Exactly!
Which is why, rather than create a completely original crew, setting, time period, etc., they've decided to go back to the beginning and set this movie during the origins of the franchise, using characters and concepts that people are most sentimental and nostalic about.
Wait a minute... Which side was I on again?
That's true, Strudel; but Skippy's model doesn't really stray very far from the original, anyway. On the contrary:
http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/wnmhgb/retro_credits_enterprise.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ICdcvapSQ8
The differences are only marginal.
I mean: That would be acceptable as a "compromise" for me.
http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/wnmhgb/retro_credits_enterprise.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ICdcvapSQ8
The differences are only marginal.
I mean: That would be acceptable as a "compromise" for me.
Number6 said:
Since Salieri was a contemporary of Mozart, I don't see how your analogy works. Especially considering that Beethoven was born in 1770, at the height of Salieri's best recognized works.
As I am sure you already know..
Best recognized works ?
I think you get my drift.
Samuel T. Cogley said:
Exactly!
Which is why, rather than create a completely original crew, setting, time period, etc., they've decided to go back to the beginning and set this movie during the origins of the franchise, using characters and concepts that people are most sentimental and nostalic about.
Wait a minute... Which side was I on again?
"Error! Error! Analyze! An-a-lyze!"
"You're logic was impeccable, Captain. We are in grave danger."
Mariner Class said:
I'm the crazed old-skool fan who would squeal with absolute ecstasy if Vektor's 1701 glided onto the silver screen.
If she's going to be "updated," let a genuine artist take the reins. As was the case with the original.
No offense to Vektor, but that design doesn't jive for me; turrets? Also, why the slices of saucer missing, and an inner/outer ring? That looks more like wasted space that could be filled with crew quarters, science labs, etc.
James
Right! Because movies trading on nostalgia for 1960s TV shows make so much damned money at the box office. The producers of the film revivals of "Beverly Hillbillies," "Dukes Of Hazzard," and "Mod Squad" have all said that they regret not having budgeted their movies somewhere north of 100 million apiece.
Well, it looks like we're fucked, then!
Not nearly enough, but let's not talk about my personal life...
JJohnson said:
Mariner Class said:
I'm the crazed old-skool fan who would squeal with absolute ecstasy if Vektor's 1701 glided onto the silver screen.
If she's going to be "updated," let a genuine artist take the reins. As was the case with the original.
No offense to Vektor, but that design doesn't jive for me; turrets? Also, why the slices of saucer missing, and an inner/outer ring? That looks more like wasted space that could be filled with crew quarters, science labs, etc.
James
Science labs? NERD! Give me some damn turrets!
Actually, every one of those projects tried manfully to have the cake and eat it too in precisely the manner you seem to advocate for Trek XI, "it's the same but different!" Besides, every one of those projects was based on source material far inferior to Star Trek.
JJohnson said:
Mariner Class said:
I'm the crazed old-skool fan who would squeal with absolute ecstasy if Vektor's 1701 glided onto the silver screen.
If she's going to be "updated," let a genuine artist take the reins. As was the case with the original.
No offense to Vektor, but that design doesn't jive for me; turrets? Also, why the slices of saucer missing, and an inner/outer ring? That looks more like wasted space that could be filled with crew quarters, science labs, etc.
James
I don't think he'd mind: Vektor designed that as an April Fools gag (yes, that level of skill and effort represents his idea of a joke--why hasn't Paramount hired him already, for crissakes?
) intended to be believable enough to fool people but dumb enough to piss the fans off.For the record, I think it is another great piece of fan art, a great jazz riff on the original.
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Mariner Class said:
I'm the crazed old-skool fan who would squeal with absolute ecstasy if Vektor's 1701 glided onto the silver screen.
If she's going to be "updated," let a genuine artist take the reins. As was the case with the original.
Ugh, that's ugly! That's exactly what I do NOT want to see. For one thing, the original Enterprise has no blue strips of sequential warp coils - the red tips and white tips at the end, are the space-time sinks, aka warp coils.
