Enterprise-D bridge question
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trevanian
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I think it is mainly the use of wider lenses, coupled with the diameter increase of what, four to six feet?
They could use wider lenses without worrying about shooting off the set, because there was a ceiling, whereas TOS didn't have one of those.
That's right. I just watched that episode the other day too... just finishing up season 1 again.
Just call it "201". Much easier to memorize and still the same.
Aha, wider lenses! I hadn't thought of that. Do you happen to know how much wider the TNG shooting lenses were than those of TOS?
Congrats on the episode title... I think...
Just call it "201". Much easier to memorize and still the same.
I prefer C9 (or 0xC9 if you need the specifier) - easier to translate any direction you wish.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
No, it just occurred to me out of the blue. With 35mm cameras, 50mm lenses are for standard views, and closeups are often done with 75mms. I'd guess bridge masters might be done with 24mm or 27mm, but it probably depends on whether they wild-pulled the viewscreen or not for a given day.
By way of comparison, when you get to 17.5mm or so, you start getting funhouse effects, like what folks trot out for 'dream scenes' or Orson Welles would use a lot in TOUCH OF EVIL. I imagine that was what they had when they did Data's dream stuff where he flies down the corridors as a bird or whatever it was.
Thanks for that info, trevanian. My film studies aborted before I got into the more in-depth technical stuff.
Slightly OT, would you (or anyone else) happen to remember the technique they used for filming the Enterprise in TMP that made it look so convincingly large? Wasn't it something to do with long focal length and a small lens?
Slightly OT, would you (or anyone else) happen to remember the technique they used for filming the Enterprise in TMP that made it look so convincingly large? Wasn't it something to do with long focal length and a small lens?
I have to put my vote in for the workstations at the side. Personally I always got a kick out of the changes they made to the E-D's bridge in various episodes (e.g. Parallels, All Good Things, others).
Yeah, I actually know about that stuff... They were originally meant to be emergency equipment lockers, in case the bridge was cut off from the rest of the ship. They might have contained a couple of environmental suits, food, water, oxygen-producing equipment, torch-cutters, old magazines, Romulan Ale, you name it,... accessed through roll up/down doors. Obviously that changed more than once but at least they were used, which is more than I can say for the provided food replicators, port & starboard, not to mention the bridge 'head'... not to mention the Captain's head (except for making tea).There were some horizontal panels along the sides of the bridge which were later replaced by stations in Generations. I believe during the show they portrayed these as some kind of computer access, but I think I saw Andrew Probert say he'd intended them to be something else. Does anyone know what that was? I can't remember now.
Andrew-
Disillusioned
Commander
From Season 3 onward they almost looked like they could be drawers, except maybe for the flashing lights on them, but I remembered you saying something about them being intended for storage. Thanks for dropping in Mr. Probert. 
I apologize if this question is asked repeatedly, but is there a generally accepted fanon explanation for the changes in the bridge between TNG and GEN?
Minor refit to the whole ship during a trip to spacedock? Swapping a bridge module? It was always that way? Geordi was on a coffee high? Someone changed the TARDIS desktop theme?
Minor refit to the whole ship during a trip to spacedock? Swapping a bridge module? It was always that way? Geordi was on a coffee high? Someone changed the TARDIS desktop theme?
Disillusioned
Commander
I don't think anything was said on screen, but presumably adding those stations added to the ship's functionality. That and it looked cool. 
Well they needed to make the bridge look different for the movie. Imagine how boring it'd've been if it'd stay'd the same!
Well E-D did kinda go SkyNet in that one episode when it became self-aware or something.
Yeah, I actually know about that stuff... They were originally meant to be emergency equipment lockers, in case the bridge was cut off from the rest of the ship. They might have contained a couple of environmental suits, food, water, oxygen-producing equipment, torch-cutters, old magazines, Romulan Ale, you name it,... accessed through roll up/down doors. Obviously that changed more than once but at least they were used, which is more than I can say for the provided food replicators, port & starboard, not to mention the bridge 'head'... not to mention the Captain's head (except for making tea).There were some horizontal panels along the sides of the bridge which were later replaced by stations in Generations. I believe during the show they portrayed these as some kind of computer access, but I think I saw Andrew Probert say he'd intended them to be something else. Does anyone know what that was? I can't remember now.
Andrew-
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Ewwwww.
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