Enterprise 1701-Refit Briefing Room?

[Galileo7]

How similar to the original Enterprise 1701 Briefing Room Set do you think the 1701-Refit Briefing Room Set might have looked like if it had been build for Star Trek:The Motion Picture? I think it would have been interesting if the original set, seen in this photo, had been rebuilt and just updated the computer and chairs, but kept the same table along with the look of the room with the exception of the entrance doors. After all, TMP 1701-Refit was the original 1701 just refit.

 

[F. King Daniel]

There was a briefing room floor plan and description in @Lora4October's Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise. I can't remember if it was entirely her creation or if it was based on an unmade set for The Motion Picture.

Either way, that's the movie-era briefing room I've imagined while reading a lifetime of Trek novels and whatnot.

 

[Vger23]

During the design process, Kirk probably told them to make better use of the space since board meetings are for weenies.

 

[The Mighty Monkey of Mim]

During the design process, Kirk probably told them to make better use of the space since board meetings are for weenies.

 

[Galileo7]

There was a briefing room floor plan and description in @Lora4October's Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise. I can't remember if it was entirely her creation or if it was based on an unmade set for The Motion Picture.

Either way, that's the movie-era briefing room I've imagined while reading a lifetime of Trek novels and whatnot.

It looks like it is exactly what I hoped they would have done as stated above.

Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise:
http://engineering.thetafleet.net/Journals/TOS/Johnson - Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise (revised edition - bad FASA timeline).pdf

 

[Maurice]

I've never seen the plans or concept drawings for the Star Trek [Phase] II briefing room set, but concepts for the Rec Room were drawn up by Mike Minor. Space appears to have been left for such a set in the soundstage across from the transporter room, basically in the same place relative to it as in TOS, but I'm unsure if the Rec Room was supposed to be redressed into the Briefing Room or if it was intended to be on a different stage. It's possible the Rec Room might've been placed where the holodeck/cargo deck ended up in TNG, as these drawings make it appear too deep to have fit in the space available across from the transporter.

 

[Mytran]

So, it would look something like this?

The corridor struts don't match, but that is the most obvious place on the soundstage for it.

 

[Maurice]

I wouldn't give much credence to that briefing room from the book.

 

[Ryann866]

I always thought it would go directly opposite the transporter room (where Troi's office was built once the sets were redressed for TNG) The double doors to the transporter room weren't there for TMP, but when the sets were used for TNG, so I thought that would be the logical space for the briefing room.

Wasn't there an office set built for Admiral Nogura? I believe what became the shape for the cargo container slots in TMP actually started off as arches for Nogura's office. Was that possible a redress of what was to be the briefing room?

There's also this shot from the screen tests for Phase II. I have no idea what room this is supposed to be or if it was just some walls set up for the tests, but it looks like it could be the briefing room.

http://www.zeebedesigns.com/tumblr-instagram/index.php?tag=star+trek:+phase+II

 

[Lance]

I know a number of the sets from The MotionPicture were migrated over from Phase II, but were modified to be more cinematic. I often wonder if the television versions of those same sets would've exhibited more of a transitional feel, ie more of a feeling of simply being the original Enterprise but with subtle updates? For example, using brighter colors, red for the doors and bridge railings, things like that. The test footage we can see (the Xon and Ilia screentests) certainly look this way, and the engine room set seen in one of them is clearly the one from TMP but with brighter colored doors and an intermix chamber on one wall that could almost make it look like the one seen in TOS. My bet is the whole production aesthetic might have looked more like a transition between TOS and TMP.

 

[Lance]

It's almost a shame the Phase II TV series bridge would've been essentially what we saw in The Motion Picture, because using something like the Excelsior bridge from TSFS would've been an interesting way to suggest that the Enterprise refit is at least nominally the same ship from TOS underneath a few very minor aesthetic upgrades

 

[Maurice]

I always thought it would go directly opposite the transporter room (where Troi's office was built once the sets were redressed for TNG) The double doors to the transporter room weren't there for TMP, but when the sets were used for TNG, so I thought that would be the logical space for the briefing room.

That's apparently where they planned to put it, just as it was in TOS.

Wasn't there an office set built for Admiral Nogura? I believe what became the shape for the cargo container slots in TMP actually started off as arches for Nogura's office. Was that possible a redress of what was to be the briefing room?

The Nogura set was being built for "In Thy Image" and the walls did get repurposed for the cargo deck, those were on a different stage..

There's also this shot from the screen tests for Phase II. I have no idea what room this is supposed to be or if it was just some walls set up for the tests, but it looks like it could be the briefing room.

http://www.zeebedesigns.com/tumblr-instagram/index.php?tag=star+trek:+phase+II

That just looks like a few wall flats, and it doesn't match any of the sets that we've seen under construction.

Speaking of those sets...

 

[F. King Daniel]

That's apparently where they planned to put it, just as it was in TOS.

The Nogura set was being built for "In Thy Image" and the walls did get repurposed for the cargo deck, those were on a different stage..

That just looks like a few wall flats, and it doesn't match any of the sets that we've seen under construction.

Speaking of those sets...

Forget the mirror or Kelvin universes, these photos are from Star Trek's alternate timeline.

 

[Ryann866]

That's apparently where they planned to put it, just as it was in TOS.

The Nogura set was being built for "In Thy Image" and the walls did get repurposed for the cargo deck, those were on a different stage..

That just looks like a few wall flats, and it doesn't match any of the sets that we've seen under construction.

Speaking of those sets...

This are fantastic photos! The Phase II motherlode! Thank you! I had seen the color ones but never the ones from Inside Trek... I love seeing "what might have been". I wish there was more documentation on when they changed the TMP sets into TNG sets... seemed like it happened really fast given the production timeline from 1987.

 

[Lance]

That's apparently where they planned to put it, just as it was in TOS.

The Nogura set was being built for "In Thy Image" and the walls did get repurposed for the cargo deck, those were on a different stage..

That just looks like a few wall flats, and it doesn't match any of the sets that we've seen under construction.

Speaking of those sets...

This is some interesting information I hadn't seen before Those photos are a great demonstration of the 'between two Treks' aesthetic I imagine the Phase 2 TV series would've had: the sharper, cleaner lines of The Motion Picture, but with details to suggest that the original 60s Enterprise is still under there somewhere..... in fact, the corridor set there actually looks surprisingly like a more compact, slightly more detailed version of the one from TOS! Very cool.

 

[Mytran]

That's apparently where they planned to put it, just as it was in TOS.

The Nogura set was being built for "In Thy Image" and the walls did get repurposed for the cargo deck, those were on a different stage..

That just looks like a few wall flats, and it doesn't match any of the sets that we've seen under construction.

Speaking of those sets...

Thank you so much for sharing these. I love the "updated TOS" look!
One interesting difference from the motion picture is that the corridor is composed of single sized flats, unlike in TMP when sections that featured doors were approximately half the wide of the other sections.

 

[arch101]

I wish there was more documentation on when they changed the TMP sets into TNG sets... seemed like it happened really fast given the production timeline from 1987.

Actually, there was plenty of time. Many of the Enterprise sets hadn't been used since TWOK in '82. They didn't even put Main Engineering back up for TSFS in '84. Only a redressed portion of the Main Bridge appeared in TVH in '86, with a small area pre-redress used for Saratoga.
I believe they started pulling out, reassembling and redressing the TMP sets almost as soon as the ink was dry to go with TNG in late '86.

 

[Firebird]

Actually, there was plenty of time. Many of the Enterprise sets hadn't been used since TWOK in '82. They didn't even put Main Engineering back up for TSFS in '84.

They used every Enterprise set from The Wrath of Khan for The Search for Spock (I believe Paramount left the Stage 9 sets standing after TMP, they weren't taken down until Voyager ended in 2001):
Main Engineering - reused as the engine room on the Excelsior, warp core not shown. The special home video release of The Cage in 1986 shows the warp core fully constructed (Roddenberry's intro/outros were filmed following the production of TVH).
Sickbay - the main patient ward was redressed as the San Francisco bar where Bones talks to the strange alien.
Examination Room (where Peter Preston dies in TWOK) - redressed as a portion of the Bird of Prey for the scene where Bones speaks to an unconscious Spock on the way to Vulcan.
Kirk's Quarters - redressed for Spock's quarters
Turbolift - used for a deleted scene between Kirk and Bones after the first scene on the Enterprise bridge.
Corridors - used unaltered from their appearance in TWOK.
Transporter Room - used unaltered from its appearance in TWOK. Also seen in Roddenberry's intro for The Cage.
Torpedo Bay - served triple duty in this production, first as the bridge of the Bird of Prey, then the bridge of the Merchantman freighter blown up by Kruge, then finally as the Enterprise's torpedo bay for Admiral Morrow.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Actually the corridors were given a royal red carpet for their TVH/Enterprise-A appearance. And the intermix chamber was given new green lighting. These can be seen on the Good Morning America set tour.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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