Ent-D in the Next Gen movies - shoulda kept it?

[Captain Atkin]

They should have kept the saucer section, but given her a new secondary hull in the sequel. One that had longer warp engines and a slightly different look to her. They didn't have to destroy the whole ship. I felt that was a huge mistake, and a bit disrespectful to Gene Roddenbery (and was killing Kirk, but that's another story...) Probert could have easily designed a new secondary hull for them.

People like familiarity, and I would dare say that general audiences liked the Enterprise D more than the E. Having a ship on screen (and a bridge) that they where more familiar with might have actually helped in ticket sales at the box office. Sure First Contact made more than Generations, but that was becaus eof the Borg. The other sequels made less.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Having a ship on screen (and a bridge) that they where more familiar with might have actually helped in ticket sales at the box office. Sure First Contact made more than Generations, but that was becaus eof the Borg.

Mmmmm. How many members of the general public choose what new movie to go and see based on whether the sets are familiar or not?

Indeed, your argument could just as easily work in reverse: "I hear those cheapskates recycled some of the TV sets they had hanging around - instead of building something new. I coulda just watched the repeats at home."

 

[Gratis]

http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=906629&postcount=40

 

[22 Stars]

The TNG movies were a disaster, so I don't really care what ship they used. I personally never liked the direction of the triangular hulls and low profiles of the EE and Voyager. Both ships look like nothing but lumpy messes from the sides. Even from the front and back there's not a lot of definition.

This is spot-on. Generations by Moore's own commentary was a potpourri of ideas from the writers producers and execs. Some were good, some were bad but for sure they all should not have been in the SAME movie.

 

[DWF]

I thought the crash of the Enterprise D was a huge event it even made me stop breathing for a minute or two. And I have no problem with them getting a more theater based Enterprise and I really liked the Enterprise E and they had a better bridge layout on the E IMO.

 

[Shikarnov]

http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=906629&postcount=40

I'd been looking for these pics everywhere! Thanks for that repost.

And, Flux Capacitor, if you're reading this -- A) Great job and B) If you ever feel inclined to work up the E-D in Insurrection and Nemesis, you'll have at least one grateful fan.

 

[Blip]

^ Seconded. Those shots are awesome.

Ent-E was a cludge, both inside and out, composed of multiple contradictory "styles" fudged together with no thought to an overall aesthetic.

On the exterior hull we had the bizarre mish-mash of sweeping "fast" lines with excessive hull panelling, clunky looking steps and design throwbacks - not to mention completely illogical elements (Impulse Drives, I'm looking at you - not to mention those silly space-wasting Lifeboats). My full list of complaints is, shall we say.. much longer.

The interior is equally bad. The bridge itself looks like one trip hazard after another, and all those free-standing consoles just create visual clutter. Those ostentatious bits like the pointless chrome striping in the wall padding, and the decorative piping in the lit support struts look dated already.

I've got no problem with refitting the Ent-D if necessary, or even replacing it if needs be, but for the love of god let someone other than Eaves do it - his pre-TOS work is awesome, but he just doesn't seem to get the TNG aesthetic.

 

[los2188]

I watched Generations again last night and I took note of a few things. All though I like the Enterprise E much better on the outside than D, I have to admit that the Enterprise D looked great on the inside in the movie. I was really shocked when I noticed that. What ever it was that they did to make it look this way, they did a hell of a job. I was surprised at how great it looked.