Here's my attempt. I got it down to 65kb, but it took a lot of cutting to do it.
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Endgame Ending
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It looks like Voyager is running away from one explosion only to blow up in a completely different explosion.
1. the premature introduction of advanced technology into the time line by Admiral Janeway would have precreated a more technologically sophisticated 28th or 27th or 26th century Federation who would be masters of time first and better, therefore by the 29th resulting from those altered techupped earlier future centuries, most of humanity would have fobbed off to be space gods, or it would have meant the utter ruination and destruction of the 29th century Federation because they weren't civilised enough to handle the technology they had been gifted. You would give a 5 year old a fully gassed up chainsaw for a Christmas present why?
2. The creation of the 29th century as we saw it the second time (Braxton II came from a more sophisticated Federation who had a more diverse understanding than Braxton I) was dependant on Admiral Janeways Actions and never would have been born with out that cross pollinating spark to set it off. If Janeway had been stopped then their time line, Braxton and Ducane's 29th century Chronopolis would have been demolished by their own hand because they were pulling at frays from the tapestry of their own lives with abandon.
In either case, Admiral Janeway got to run free amok.
2. The creation of the 29th century as we saw it the second time (Braxton II came from a more sophisticated Federation who had a more diverse understanding than Braxton I) was dependant on Admiral Janeways Actions and never would have been born with out that cross pollinating spark to set it off. If Janeway had been stopped then their time line, Braxton and Ducane's 29th century Chronopolis would have been demolished by their own hand because they were pulling at frays from the tapestry of their own lives with abandon.
In either case, Admiral Janeway got to run free amok.
^^^ Hmm, good point. Actually the same happened with 20th Century computer technology. It was never "meant" to happen. But if they undid it, they'd undo their timeline with the Federation in it. So I see your point about "looking the other way" on the whole matter.
That and they ran out of money to pay for more b-list actors.
Alice must have cost a packet.
I would blame Alice's hefty paycheck on the suckage that was natural law, just a couple shlubs running about the jungle (Braga's back yard?) with nary an ounce of fx in sight.
Alice must have cost a packet.
I would blame Alice's hefty paycheck on the suckage that was natural law, just a couple shlubs running about the jungle (Braga's back yard?) with nary an ounce of fx in sight.
I thought "Natural Law" was pretty lame until I saw "Nightingale." But then, "Renaissance Man" made "Nightingale" look good.
Not a fan of the seventh season, for the most part.
I think the ending was a bit of the writers thinking "how the heck can we wrap this up in a two parter" I woul have much rather watched the next 17 seasons of voyager getting home pre Admiral Janeway's violation of the TPD.
Woooooorrrrrrd. And those 17 years sounded pretty dang interesting, too.
I would have also settled for an awesome movie. I've written about 15 billion potential VOY movies in my head. All of them contain explosions and blue aliens and a little J/C and kind of rip off the storyline of Mass Effect a little bit but whatever because I totally thought them up pre-Mass Effect. Also explosions. I'd probably hire Michael Bay.
Ideally they should have gotten home under their own power, and spent the last 15 min wrapping up people's stories.
I would have been happy if the cut 10 minutes out of all the "22 years after" stuff, and used that to wrap up people's stories, even if it was simply a "Star Trek 4 trial at the end of the movie" sort of thing.
I would have been happy if the cut 10 minutes out of all the "22 years after" stuff, and used that to wrap up people's stories, even if it was simply a "Star Trek 4 trial at the end of the movie" sort of thing.
Ah, but here's the problem.
she ONLY loses another 22 crew over the next 17 years.
That either means that nothing exciting happens for the next two decades or all that their supposedly dicey conflicts are piss easy she could phone in.
Nothing exciting happens?
fuck that.
Janeway is an action junkie.
Without action she's going to die.
Roll into a ball in her quarters and forget to breath.
Nothing exciting happening is 2 dozen coffin nails.
I saw a movie like this last week. Sex and Death. Simon baker the mentalist, in a movie where he is not the mentalist, gets an email from god by accident telling him all the women in the world he is GOING to sleep with before he dies. Kid in a candy shop following that list penis first. As he's approaching the end of the list, Simon is suddenly wondering what's so special about the last name on the list? ...OH! She's a serial killer.
Same difference.
(of course, the captain would have had to have tied the admiral down and started cutting off her fingers, but she's an old dab with torture and if the Captain isn't destined to become the admiral then the admiral doesn't exist and no laws apply to her. But locking the old lady up in the brig, bitch slapping truth out of her like candy from a vending machine, could have made the way home quite (as not) leisurely (as her action addiction required that she could steer the ship into "relative" danger fro a laugh now and then.) with out overly disturbing the timeline heading towards that good future the Admiral didn't think too much of.)
Janeways counting down how many are dead against the magic number 22, which is not to different from counting cards in Las Vegas, every time she's deciding how to handle any given situation trying to figure out how many of the 22 are going to expire this time, how many can she keep in reserve, how many she's willing to sacrifice and which crew she's going to force into being part of the 22.
22 dead in 17 years is too sad and pathetic a mediocre thrill ride for the captain to care about, all joy from her continuing mission has been castrated and turned into a fricking cake walk. No wonder she attacked the hub get her blood pumping and her lady business frothing.
she ONLY loses another 22 crew over the next 17 years.
That either means that nothing exciting happens for the next two decades or all that their supposedly dicey conflicts are piss easy she could phone in.
Nothing exciting happens?
fuck that.
Janeway is an action junkie.
Without action she's going to die.
Roll into a ball in her quarters and forget to breath.
Nothing exciting happening is 2 dozen coffin nails.
I saw a movie like this last week. Sex and Death. Simon baker the mentalist, in a movie where he is not the mentalist, gets an email from god by accident telling him all the women in the world he is GOING to sleep with before he dies. Kid in a candy shop following that list penis first. As he's approaching the end of the list, Simon is suddenly wondering what's so special about the last name on the list? ...OH! She's a serial killer.
Same difference.
(of course, the captain would have had to have tied the admiral down and started cutting off her fingers, but she's an old dab with torture and if the Captain isn't destined to become the admiral then the admiral doesn't exist and no laws apply to her. But locking the old lady up in the brig, bitch slapping truth out of her like candy from a vending machine, could have made the way home quite (as not) leisurely (as her action addiction required that she could steer the ship into "relative" danger fro a laugh now and then.) with out overly disturbing the timeline heading towards that good future the Admiral didn't think too much of.)
Janeways counting down how many are dead against the magic number 22, which is not to different from counting cards in Las Vegas, every time she's deciding how to handle any given situation trying to figure out how many of the 22 are going to expire this time, how many can she keep in reserve, how many she's willing to sacrifice and which crew she's going to force into being part of the 22.
22 dead in 17 years is too sad and pathetic a mediocre thrill ride for the captain to care about, all joy from her continuing mission has been castrated and turned into a fricking cake walk. No wonder she attacked the hub get her blood pumping and her lady business frothing.
