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EM Drive To Receive Peer Review

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Yup, however, I don't think you know who understands this.
 
It would certainly be a game changer for the satellite industry -- the need for station-keeping propellant mass would no longer be required and satellites would remain viable for much longer than previously. It would be astonishing if a reactionless drive has been invented almost by accident and put into use without anyone apparently knowing for certain how it works. It almost makes the human race seem like lucky fools if not quite like Pakleds.
 
Flying was once thought of as pseudoscientific as well and was feared because of the story of Icarus.

Hopefully once the EM Drive is tested in space it will be used to power probes.

With a successful EM Drive, how long would it take a probe the size and weight of Tablet to travel to Proxima Centauri b?
 
Uh. . . More than four years. If the probe is going to be useful to us and return with data, it can't travel too close to the speed of light and invoke time dilation whereby its flight could take from decades to thousands of years to us.
 
No, I'm afraid that's not correct. Travelling close to the speed of light, the probe would take just over 4.2 years as measured by a clock on Earth. As measured by a clock on the probe, it would take 4.2 * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) years so ever closer to 0 as the probe's speed v tends toward the speed of light c. If you can travel very close to the speed of light, you can go anywhere in the Universe in very little elapsed time to you but the time elapsed in the reference frame from where you started will be approximately the distance you travelled divided by c (for example, 4.2 light years divided by 0.999c = 4.204... years). Of course, such a notion is impractical because your apparent inertial mass increases as 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) or every closer to infinity as v tends toward c.
 
Right, I though you meant a trip by a probe travelling a distance of 4.2 light years at near light speed would take tens to thousands of years as measured on Earth.
 
By the way, as a curiosity, and ignoring the obvious problem of infinite energy, any ship traveling at light speed will not be able to stop at its destination without an external force. It travels an infinite distance in zero time within its frame of reference - literally no time to observe and react.
 
The long form answer: small probe sent it to Proximal Centauri, the purpose of a probe being to gather information. A small probe would not have a large and powerful antenna, nor would a singular probe be part of an swarm forming an array, hence the probe arrives, gathers information, and departs for Earth.

Since we want the information in our lifetime, and wish to avoid future colonists from greeting the first launched probe on its late arrival, we need to practice time dilation management, so we want to avoid anything over 50% of c—and I prefer not going that fast. This means a brachistochrone flight path for the trip in and trip out, so I'd say a safe ballpark figure for arrival Proxima Centauri at about 20 years.

Sound reasonable?
 
Why do you want the probe to return when it could just transmit back the data it gathers at the speed of light? Decelerating the probe and returning it seems kind of unnecessary but one suggested method of changing the velocity vector is to spool out a wire loop and use the star's magnetic field to slow down or deflect the probe -- either by simple eddy current breaking or by passing a current in the loop, creating a magnetic sail to actively steer the craft.

http://www.exampleproblems.com/wiki/index.php/Magnetic_sail#Interstellar_travel
 
By the way, as a curiosity, and ignoring the obvious problem of infinite energy, any ship traveling at light speed will not be able to stop at its destination without an external force. It travels an infinite distance in zero time within its frame of reference - literally no time to observe and react.

Times stops for the traveler, and I would suppose an observer on Earth would see that the trip took all the remaining time left in the universe.
 
The long form answer: small probe sent it to Proximal Centauri, the purpose of a probe being to gather information. A small probe would not have a large and powerful antenna, nor would a singular probe be part of an swarm forming an array, hence the probe arrives, gathers information, and departs for Earth.

This makes sense to me. If you're sending a single small probe, it would probably preclude a large antenna or a power source that could boost a signal to a strength that could cross interstellar space mostly intact and detectable. Other models featuring larger probes or a probe swarm might be able to forgo a return trip and communicate directly.

Since we want the information in our lifetime, and wish to avoid future colonists from greeting the first launched probe on its late arrival, we need to practice time dilation management, so we want to avoid anything over 50% of c—and I prefer not going that fast. This means a brachistochrone flight path for the trip in and trip out, so I'd say a safe ballpark figure for arrival Proxima Centauri at about 20 years.

Sound reasonable?

However, this argument makes no sense to me. Going faster means the probe arrives at its destination sooner, and the return trip also takes less time. The actual time the probe travels while at high fractions of lightspeed doesn't change, only the perceived time for the probe. While traveling at such speeds, it's going very fast, not crawling in slow-mo. This is what the rest of the universe sees. Your "time dilation management" description sounds backwards to me.

Now, traveling at high velocity can pose issues for the probe. As was pointed out previously, the time the probe takes to react to any sort of potential collision or other problem could be quite dangerous. Navigation could also be problematic, since the closer to lightspeed the probe travels, the more distorted the starlight falling on the probe becomes. Indeed, it's believed that close to c, say at 90% lightspeed or so, the stars will appear to group ahead or behind the probe, severely red-shifted or blue-shifted. That would make the navigation systems used by most probes, triangulating on visible star patterns, difficult to impossible to use. Also, the faster you go, the harder interstellar dust hits your craft, with potentially catastrophic effects.

One final point -- even if this propulsion technology proves to be effective, your probe won't be traveling at high velocity the entire trip. There will be long acceleration and deceleration periods at each end, hitting maximum velocity only for a short time in the middle of the voyage. And it sounds like the acceleration/deceleration rate would be quite small, judging by the amount of thrust potentially produced. No one seems to have taken those slower periods of travel into consideration in this discussion.
 
Times stops for the traveler, and I would suppose an observer on Earth would see that the trip took all the remaining time left in the universe.
Probably - except for the inconvenient infinite mass causing the universe to collapse in on the traveler. :D
 
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