Einstein-Rosen Bridge

[Asbo Zaprudder]

^ That's what I've often thought. Diagrams of E-R bridges usually show space-time folded and pinched together at the wormhole when it might make little difference if not folded. Things that might make the travel time shorter are wormholes with exotic properties such as unusual space-time metrics, vacuum properties that allow a faster speed of light, or lower the inertial mass - any of which might well not be at all conducive to supporting biological processes.

 

[Dryson]

Just after the big bang, the Higgs field was zero, but as the universe cooled and the temperature fell below a critical value, the field grew spontaneously so that any particle interacting with it acquired a mass. The more a particle interacts with this field, the heavier it is. Particles like the photon that do not interact with it are left with no mass at all. Like all fundamental fields, the Higgs field has an associated particle – the Higgs boson. The Higgs boson is the visible manifestation of the Higgs field, rather like a wave at the surface of the sea.



http://home.cern/topics/higgs-boson/origins-brout-englert-higgs-mechanism

...but as the universe cooled and the temperature fell below a critical value, the field grew spontaneously so that any particle interacting with it acquired a mass.

So reduction in temperature falling to below a critical value caused the field to grow spontaneously. If the temperature was raised above this critical value then the Higg's field would not function where any particle passing through it would not acquire mass.

Reducing particle mass is the key to creating an E-R bridge.

Folding an area of space to create a shorter distance between two points is not possible in space time to allow an object to pass through the Fold and emerge on the other side in a far off part of the galaxy.

Reducing particle mass between two points that you are passing through in space-time would reduce the constant push of gravity on an object from all sides allowing the object to travel faster through the conduit will experiencing less gravitational influences.

Think of if this way.

You have a wall in front of you that is a foot thick and made of solid wood. An object would have to use tremendous force to penetrate the solid wood wall and continue travelling.

But if the solid wood wall was reduced in particle mass it would still remain a a foot in thickness but the object would not have to exert an extra amount of force to pass through the solid wood wall.

The object could actually increase in velocity and occupy more space-time.

Dark Matter and Dark Energy are still forms of matter. They are not like protons and photons that do not interact with a Higgs field which must interact with the Higg's field that assists with adding mass to a particle otherwise the expanse of the Universe would have continued at faster than light speed velocities.

 

[Silvercrest]

You're talking gibberish again. Your last paragraph contradicts itself several times, inasmuch as it makes any sense at all. Dark energy is a form of matter? Do tell.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct." - Niels Bohr

The last paragraph is also incorrect - the quarks inside protons do acquire their mass from interactions with the Higgs field (at least, according to the standard model). However, about 99% a proton's mass is due to the binding energy of the strong force interactions between the quarks. This also goes for neutrons and similarly for other hadrons (baryons and mesons) composed of quarks (3 and 2, respectively for baryons and mesons).

 

[Dryson]

You're talking gibberish again. Your last paragraph contradicts itself several times, inasmuch as it makes any sense at all. Dark energy is a form of matter? Do tell.

Energy -In physics, energy is a property of objects which can be transferred to other objects or converted into different forms, but cannot be created or destroyed.

Matter-Matter is the Stuff Around You. Matter is everything around you. Atoms and molecules are all composed of matter. Matter is anything that has mass and takes up space. If you are new to the idea of mass, it is the amount of stuff in an object.

Dark Energy is all around us. It has to be its own matter or science would be able to measure the transfer of energy between other objects. Dark Energy might not be atoms but it does have a mass that creates a force Dark Energy also takes up space once again based on the definition of matter.

No one said anything about the Higgs Field interacting with the quark. The Higgs field interacts withLike the proton, the quarks of the neutron are held together by the strong force, mediated by gluons. According to CERN there is no interaction between a proton and the Highs Field.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Protons are composed of quarks, and quarks interact with the Higgs field, so therefore protons interact with the Higgs field via their constituent quarks. Anyway, it's splitting hairs to argue about this further.

What's your theory of dark matter?

 

[Silvercrest]

If you are new to the idea of mass, it is the amount of stuff in an object.

How very scientific.

 

[Dryson]

Protons are composed of quarks, and quarks interact with the Higgs field, so therefore protons interact with the Higgs field via their constituent quarks. Anyway, it's splitting hairs to argue about this further.

What's your theory of dark matter?

The more strongly a particle interacts with the Higgs field, the more massive it is. It's important to note, however, that most of the mass in composite particles, like protons, nuclei, and atoms, does not come from the Higgs mechanism, but from the binding energy that holds these particles together.

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/111

Protons do not interact with the Higg's Field as such an interaction would create an entirely different type of particle.

If protons interact with a Higg's Field then what new particle is created?

There is no interaction between the Proton and the Higgs Fields.

Basically its like a hot air balloon. You have the balloon, the gondola, the cabling and the gas itself. Numerous interactions but interactions that do not change the state of matter in any of the associated interactions.


There are four fundamental forces at work in the universe: the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force, and the gravitational force. They work over different ranges and have different strengths. Gravity is the weakest but it has an infinite range. The electromagnetic force also has infinite range but it is many times stronger than gravity. The weak and strong forces are effective only over a very short range and dominate only at the level of subatomic particles. Despite its name, the weak force is much stronger than gravity but it is indeed the weakest of the other three. The strong force, as the name suggests, is the strongest of all four fundamental interactions.

Gravity is the weakest force but has an infinite range. I would have to think that gravity does not have an infinite range because the objects needed to create gravity, such as planets, stars, atoms, etc. do no exist on the outside of our Universe. The outside of the Universe meaning the space that surrounds our Universe and has not been occupied by matter or the dark area around the outside of the ellipse.

https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/image_archive/2011/52/hires.jpg

With gravity being the weakest force, by reducing the objects that create gravity by reducing their mass which should also reduce the electromagnetic force, then traveling through an E-R bridge might be possible and not cause biological life forms to exhibit any side effects due to other types of matter and energy such as Dark Matter and Dark Energy providing the forces necessary to keep the biological systems intact.

 

[Dryson]

Protons are composed of quarks, and quarks interact with the Higgs field, so therefore protons interact with the Higgs field via their constituent quarks. Anyway, it's splitting hairs to argue about this further.

What's your theory of dark matter?

The more strongly a particle interacts with the Higgs field, the more massive it is. It's important to note, however, that most of the mass in composite particles, like protons, nuclei, and atoms, does not come from the Higgs mechanism, but from the binding energy that holds these particles together.

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/111

Protons do not interact with the Higg's Field as such an interaction would create an entirely different type of particle.

If protons interact with a Higg's Field then what new particle is created?

There is no interaction between the Proton and the Higgs Fields.

Basically its like a hot air balloon. You have the balloon, the gondola, the cabling and the gas itself. Numerous interactions but interactions that do not change the state of matter in any of the associated interactions.


There are four fundamental forces at work in the universe: the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force, and the gravitational force. They work over different ranges and have different strengths. Gravity is the weakest but it has an infinite range. The electromagnetic force also has infinite range but it is many times stronger than gravity. The weak and strong forces are effective only over a very short range and dominate only at the level of subatomic particles. Despite its name, the weak force is much stronger than gravity but it is indeed the weakest of the other three. The strong force, as the name suggests, is the strongest of all four fundamental interactions.

Gravity is the weakest force but has an infinite range. I would have to think that gravity does not have an infinite range because the objects needed to create gravity, such as planets, stars, atoms, etc. do no exist on the outside of our Universe. The outside of the Universe meaning the space that surrounds our Universe and has not been occupied by matter or the dark area around the outside of the ellipse.

https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/image_archive/2011/52/hires.jpg

With gravity being the weakest force, by reducing the objects that create gravity by reducing their mass which should also reduce the electromagnetic force, then traveling through an E-R bridge might be possible and not cause biological life forms to exhibit any side effects due to other types of matter and energy such as Dark Matter and Dark Energy providing the forces necessary to keep the biological systems intact.

Gravity Not A Factor

CERN seems to think that the reason why we don't feel the effect of gravity is because in part because of it spreads to extra dimensions.

http://home.cern/about/physics/extra-dimensions-gravitons-and-tiny-black-holes

Why is gravity so much weaker than the other fundamental forces? A small fridge magnet is enough to create an electromagnetic force greater than the gravitational pull exerted by planet Earth. One possibility is that we don’t feel the full effect of gravity because part of it spreads to extra dimensions. Though it may sound like science fiction, if extra dimensions exist, they could explain why the universe is expanding faster than expected, and why gravity is weaker than the other forces of nature.

So gravity really wouldn't be the issue in traveling through an E-R bridge based on CERN but more so the electromagnetic force which is greater.

Based on this article the electromagnetic force present in the Universe would not affect our body to cause molecular disintegration at faster than light speed velocities inside of an E-R bridge unless brownian motion was overcome. Our blood is warm and based on magnets the warmer an object is the less likely for any of the types of magnetism to affect the body.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/2848/

Basically if the structure of a metallic object is heated to the same temperature of human blood without without the temperature bleeding off and remaining consistent then the outside force of paramagnetism would not affect an object traveling through a wormhole at close to light speed velocities and faster might be possible.

 

[scotthm]

The outside of the Universe meaning the space that surrounds our Universe and has not been occupied by matter or the dark area around the outside of the ellipse.

There is no such place as "outside" the Universe.

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[Silvercrest]

Among many other errors in that post. Posts.

 

[PurpleBuddha]

Gravity is the weakest force but has an infinite range. I would have to think that gravity does not have an infinite range because the objects needed to create gravity, such as planets, stars, atoms, etc. do no exist on the outside of our Universe.

You are assuming the universe is not infinite. Since one infinite set can be a sub set of another, you could have an infinite "universe" that still had an outside which was also infinite. So gravity could have an infinite range without having to influence anything that is on the outside as you say.

But since we are talking about things for which we have absolutely no empirical knowledge, why stop there? Gravity from inside our universe may well have a range that extends to the outside (should such a place exist).

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Anything "outside" the Universe is by definition part of the Universe.

 

[PurpleBuddha]

No doubt. I was giving the benefit of the doubt and assuming he was referring to some type of multiverse model. The last lecture I listened to on that made clear that if one of these models is ever confirmed by observation somehow, then we would need to rethink the terms we use to describe our "universe" as compared to one that may have a completely different set of laws. Obviously we are not there yet.

 

[Silvercrest]

No, he's made it clear in previous posts that he envisions "our" universe as expanding into some sort of pre-existing space.