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Eggs with a side of Brooks

Ragitsu

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Good evening.

Throughout the entire run of DS9, what were some of Avery Brooks' hammiest performances (be they intentionally over-the-top or incidentally excessive)? Don't limit yourself to Ben Sisko: on a few occasions, he played characters other than the hard-charging Commander-turned-Captain.
 
People hit the "Hate Speech" panic button way too quickly.

Getting back to Brooks, what was a particularly "hammy" performance that he supposedly delivered?
 
Fan criticisms of Brooks have never been anything but (poorly) disguised racism.
I don't think it's remotely fair to carpet-bomb criticism of Brooks' acting with claims of racism. Some of his acting choices work for some and not for others.

That said, I doubt much of value will come from this thread. :)
 
Fan criticisms of Brooks have never been anything but (poorly) disguised racism.


People hit the "Hate Speech" panic button way too quickly.

I don't think it's remotely fair to carpet-bomb criticism of Brooks' acting with claims of racism. Some of his acting choices work for some and not for others.
Often Brooks gets criticized for the same choices made by Shatner and Stewart. "It's real" is not much different than "Khan!" Or "There are four lights," yet when someone finds only one of those distasteful rather than simply grouping them togetherc...
 
Just what the board needed: another thread to bash Avery Brooks’ acting. What, has complaining about Kate Mulgrew's acting become too boring again?
 
Avery Brooks and his character Captain Benjamin Sisko have always been in my mind the most direct successor to William Shatner and his character of Captain James T. Kirk. Both actors are trained stage performers who used exaggerated emotional responses to bring life to sometimes bland and standard writing concepts. Their characters are both bold, confident and unapologetic men who's expectations of other officers is only superceeded by the expectations the characters place on themselves as leaders. Although I like Picard as a captain, the styles of Sisko and Kirk are just more exciting, relatable and down to earth. The funny thing is that both actors get the same criticism of overacting, hammyness, egoism and general cringe in their Trek roles. It really comes down to a lot of quiet, introspective scifi fans having a general issue with classical male confidence and feel the need to run it down in favor of calculating, cerebral logic in every situation. It's a classic clash of archetypes within the fandom.

As Tarantino once said, there are "Beatles" people and there are "Elvis" people. Both can like each artist but at the end of the day a clear preference can always be established, as the stylistic differences are too stark to be honestly held in balance. In Trek this exists as the classic Kirk/Picard comparison and the same dichotomy exists with Sisko/Picard, best shown in the opening scene of the pilot on the Enterprise D conference room. There are two primary types of Star Trek fans, Kirk/Sisko types and Picard/Archer types, each can appreciate the other version of leadership but will always pick a side at the end of the day.
 
I don't see it as productive to group people into types. There are some people who don't like the Beatles OR Elvis.
 
Trek this exists as the classic Kirk/Picard comparison and the same dichotomy exists with Sisko/Picard, best shown in the opening scene of the pilot on the Enterprise D conference room. There are two primary types of Star Trek fans, Kirk/Sisko types and Picard/Archer types, each can appreciate the other version of leadership but will always pick a side at the end of the day.
The Bujold debacle says a lot about acting approaches in Star Trek. Among the several problems she had, being naturalistic undermined Bujold's ability to convey authority. She disappeared into the scenery. The lead actors who have succeeded came with more stage experience. They have also acknowledged the need to go over the top at times.
 
I opened this thread hoping we might discuss Sisko's Cooking. He was an excellent chef, probably takes after his Father. If I do go to New Orleans, I would like to try Cajon food.

As for the topic at hand, most of the first season was hammy. Brooks didn't really get into the character until he got the beard.
 
don't see it as productive to group people into types. There are some people who don't like the Beatles OR Elvis.

And I happen to like them both.

As for the topic at hand, most of the first season was hammy. Brooks didn't really get into the character until he got the beard.

As S3 ended, Avery had established Sisko (and himself) well enough that he was able to gain some concessions regarding his appearance. The bald/goatee combination had long been his preferred "look". He was happier, and his performance improved as a result.
 
He certainly bought the ham and cheese to his performance in that episode where a transporter malfunction trapped his soul in a holographic parody of a James Bond movie.

I am the most racist person I know. I blame it on external influences so I don't have to take responsibility for my prejudices.

And with that caveat here are some racist remarks (spoiler coded so as to not offend the sensibilities of those with the self control to not look)
Avery Brooks is a better actor than any of the other lead actors in Star Trek shows.

There are too many white people on Star Trek.

Also @DS9forever is correct.
 
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