Edge of Midnight Base Map - Work in Progress
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Coming along real sweet...
So, Starbase 2, location presumably derived from HYG datum, et al? Also seem to be some loose coordinates at Betreka adjacent, to it?
Similar questions for Ba'ku (which I assume lies on a plane with Pollux et al, or other Gemini stars?)
So, Starbase 2, location presumably derived from HYG datum, et al? Also seem to be some loose coordinates at Betreka adjacent, to it?
Similar questions for Ba'ku (which I assume lies on a plane with Pollux et al, or other Gemini stars?)
Yes, re: Starbase 2.
http://hygmap.space/index.php?trek_names=1&select_center=1&select_star=171811
Betreka's location is something I contrived based loosely on published data, and the same for Baku.
http://hygmap.space/index.php?trek_names=1&select_center=1&select_star=171811
Betreka's location is something I contrived based loosely on published data, and the same for Baku.
I think I'm mostly done with the Triangle systems from FASATrek.
EoM-DisputedZone-17Mar2024-A by Dwight Williams, on Flickr
EoM-DisputedZone-17Mar2024-A by Dwight Williams, on Flickr
Very nice!
I still want to find a way to fit Moskstraumen in there. The XYZ coordinate data now being added in HYGMap's spreadsheets might help me find a candidate. Failing that, we can take one of the existing fictional star catalogues specific to Trek and work something up from there.
By the way, going back to the Attentive Senpai fan made map, I do notice he has listed Iconia as HD92213, in Hydra.
That's not so far from Alpha Dorado, from what I can tell - but I'm also not sure it's quite close enough?
Also some star correspondents for Donatu and maybe Organia, do tend to vary between his and your maps.
He also has Beta Lankal at HD71196 and Beta Thorridor, at HD30670.
Update 29 March 2024!
@ashleytinger I think you might want to look at the Triangle inset of this update.
EoM-DisputedZone-29Mar2024-A by Dwight Williams, on Flickr
@ashleytinger I think you might want to look at the Triangle inset of this update.
EoM-DisputedZone-29Mar2024-A by Dwight Williams, on Flickr
It's on the map! Love it!
Question for the room about Tiburon and Medusa.
They've long been depicted in licensed merch - starting from Star Trek Maps if memory serves - as orbiting Omega Fornacis and Xi Hydrae respectively. The former seems embedded deeply within rimward Klingon space and the latter seems to be at the trailing side of the Romulan "egg" if we go by Star Charts/Stellar Cartography.
Should those worlds perhaps be orbiting stars that are closer to the "core" UFP systems?
They've long been depicted in licensed merch - starting from Star Trek Maps if memory serves - as orbiting Omega Fornacis and Xi Hydrae respectively. The former seems embedded deeply within rimward Klingon space and the latter seems to be at the trailing side of the Romulan "egg" if we go by Star Charts/Stellar Cartography.
Should those worlds perhaps be orbiting stars that are closer to the "core" UFP systems?
The idea of a pole of inaccessibility in maps might be of use here...the Medusa home as far from other stars as can be...rather like the ideas in the recent SPACEMAN film.
UMa3/U1 is on odd dark matter system..
This might be fun to play with:
https://phys.org/news/2024-04-exotic-physics-exploring-graphene-topological.html
This is perhaps of interest
https://www.astronomy.com/science/planet-harboring-star-drifted-from-the-hyades/
UMa3/U1 is on odd dark matter system..
This might be fun to play with:
https://phys.org/news/2024-04-exotic-physics-exploring-graphene-topological.html
This is perhaps of interest
https://www.astronomy.com/science/planet-harboring-star-drifted-from-the-hyades/
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Not perhaps necessarily. In TNG we see the 1701-D careen back and forth between the quadrants regularly, like from Romulan space to near Cardassian, or from the Typhon Expanse or Zeta Gelis, to near Earth... so some 'superhighways' may exist. In Tiburon's case, maybe from Deneva (Kappa Fornacis) by Beta Rigel, to Tiburon (Omega Fornacis) which lies 'below' most Klingon space, and Eridani. Whilst Xi Hydrae might be reached by going 'over' Romulan space?
But we never really properly see Tiburon, anyway, to see how it relates.
Incidentally, Ardana to Tiburon spans over 500 light years, supposedly (using the Wolfram Alpha star to star 'widget' to calculate) and largely across the Z-axis, it seems.
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I have been working a lot on my 3D map, matching Star Trek stars with real Stars on Astrosynthesis. Do you have an index or ledger where you have sources for why you matched certain stars with certain Star Trek Systems? Maybe its a silly question depending on how much you are just making up for your own enjoyment and how much you are deducing or matching based on canon/soft canon reasoning, but its really cool either way and if you do have a list like I do of systems and sources I would love to see it or talk about it!
To add my 2 cents to one example, the Tarod System would be good as Gl 4.2/HIP 522, which is a binary system. Since Tarod should be on the sol-distant side of Sector 30 which, according to the TNG episode "The Neutral Zone", Sector 30 should be within 8 hours of Starbase 39-Sierra (most likely in the Kaleb System), and Sector 30 needs to be further away from earth than the Kaleb Sector. This would be the most likely candidate system. Tarod is also the likely system of Starbase 33.
here is an example of a much earlier version I was working on. There have been some changes and a lot of additions
https://astro.nbos.com/v/EMD1NZ/Test-Share
To add my 2 cents to one example, the Tarod System would be good as Gl 4.2/HIP 522, which is a binary system. Since Tarod should be on the sol-distant side of Sector 30 which, according to the TNG episode "The Neutral Zone", Sector 30 should be within 8 hours of Starbase 39-Sierra (most likely in the Kaleb System), and Sector 30 needs to be further away from earth than the Kaleb Sector. This would be the most likely candidate system. Tarod is also the likely system of Starbase 33.
here is an example of a much earlier version I was working on. There have been some changes and a lot of additions
https://astro.nbos.com/v/EMD1NZ/Test-Share
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In terms of Medusa, no.
If you put the Romulan Star Empire and the Federation into 3D and not 2D basically there are a bunch of Federation and non-aligned worlds that wrap around one side of it and Medusa just happens to be one of them. It is well clear of Romulan space based on Star Charts. (The Romulan egg becomes a lot more like a long baguette when you view it in 3D, with Star Charts making it seem much smaller)
Star Charts has other issues like making Teneebia seem closer to Sol than it is, or putting Gamma Equulei in the wrong Quadrant therefore making Taugas impossible for that star, but Medusa makes sense. The challenge is more how to show that in 2D.
Tiburon is also no where near Klingon space in 3D. Its just more 2D challenges. The 500ly thing isn't a big issue, 500ly is the distance the Enterprise D traveled in the first 6 months of season 1 if you believe they went from Deneb (which must be Deneb Dulfim) to the Pleiades.
Hmm -- I'd like to see more of that layout. I recall Taugus instead is at Gliese 480.1, in the StarfleetMuseum.org map, for example.
I've also lately looked at the Kevin Jardine maps, and similar, and there is a pair of 100 parsec diametre maps, one of which is a side view, looking from the Canopus side of the Federation towards the Polaris side. It shows Spica way up the top end of the map, and Canopus considerably below the mid plane. I've printed it out to begin making vertical sector divisions, as a rough guide.
As for Deneb - yeah, anyone's guess is kind of valid. See also Tau Cygna - which may be either quite close by, or much further away.
Am glad meantime, to see the project is steaming ahead...
