Edgar Ramirez may be the new del Toro in Star Trek (1)2
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Nope. In fact, they've said the opposite (including Simon Pegg's claim of Khan not being in the script).
However, people here were still hellbent on believing the villain was Khan.
I thought we were working on the assumption that he was playing Khan. Although the casting of the slight (though tall) Benedict Cumberbatch seems to have put the kibosh on that (I'm happy to say).
Kinda shaped like a Skitter, color is glowy orange, and crystaline lookingI don't even know what a Tholian is supposed to look like! Aren't they insects or something?
Geez. No Khan. Been there, done that.
And, for all the talk about Khan being Kirk's "Moriarty" or "Lex Luthor," he isn't.
Khan was a one off character, well played by Ricardo M, in a single ep of the original series. He was no more the series' primary villain than Apollo or the Gorn. Khan worked as a character/plot device in the second film in large part because his situation created an opportunity to do a story about Kirk getting older and realizing that not every thing he did as a young captain was as brilliant as he (and the viewer) might have hoped.
Right now, the film series is in a reboot and we are in the midst of Kirk's early career.
So, unless you are going to basically remake "Space Seed," simply to give us a remake of "Wrath" later, there's no point. Do something original.
And, for all the talk about Khan being Kirk's "Moriarty" or "Lex Luthor," he isn't.
Khan was a one off character, well played by Ricardo M, in a single ep of the original series. He was no more the series' primary villain than Apollo or the Gorn. Khan worked as a character/plot device in the second film in large part because his situation created an opportunity to do a story about Kirk getting older and realizing that not every thing he did as a young captain was as brilliant as he (and the viewer) might have hoped.
Right now, the film series is in a reboot and we are in the midst of Kirk's early career.
So, unless you are going to basically remake "Space Seed," simply to give us a remake of "Wrath" later, there's no point. Do something original.
^ This.
When will Edgar Ramirez ever see his Hollywood career break?
I suppose nailing Jason Bourne in The Bourne Ultimatum wasn't enough?
I suppose nailing Jason Bourne in The Bourne Ultimatum wasn't enough?
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I don't even know what a Tholian is supposed to look like! Aren't they insects or something?
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Kinda shaped like a Skitter, color is glowy orange, and crystaline lookingI don't even know what a Tholian is supposed to look like! Aren't they insects or something?
Well this Cumberbatch guy is pretty ugly, so maybe there's something to that. He could also play a salt monster or a Horta. But I'm thinking, he'll be playing a role where ugly is an advantage, and that has KLINGON written all over it.
That almost certainly will not happen in this movie, and probably not in the next one either. It's not anyone's fault, but there's a lot of pressure on these movies to succeed and part of the way they are doing it is by glomming into recognizable names. How do you think we got Kirk and Spock and the gang to begin with? Why didn't they make up an original new crew and a new ship?
Originality in Trek is dead until it's back on TV, when there is more screen time to do original things with.
When will Edgar Ramirez ever see his Hollywood career break?
I suppose nailing Jason Bourne in The Bourne Ultimatum wasn't enough?
I didn't know Bourne rolled like that.
When will Edgar Ramirez ever see his Hollywood career break?
I suppose nailing Jason Bourne in The Bourne Ultimatum wasn't enough?
I didn't know Bourne rolled like that.
I think I need to see this Bourne film...
Actually, I think several of the main cast are well on the way to becoming pretty big names in their own right, which is not something the other films had going for them aside from Shatner (who had a pretty mixed reputation) and Stewart.
I'd say Bana would have helped the film's performance in Australia.
^^
Eric Bana was the only recognizable actor from the 11th Star Trek film 2 years ago here in South Korea.
Eric Bana was the only recognizable actor from the 11th Star Trek film 2 years ago here in South Korea.
Chris Pine and Zoe Saldana were already on a trajectory towards greater fame when the got the roles. Zachary Quinto certainly has the talent to do likewise with or without Star Trek.
Gosh, I wish I could be that ugly.
Cumberbatch can play Khan.
Yep. Looking forward to that.