Eccleston comments on 50th anniversary special return

[Nagisa Furukawa]

I'll always thank that 2-parter for making Silver Nemesis look like Tomb of the Cybermen in comparison.

The Cybermen have had so many godawful moments over the years, but I don't know if anything can beat the Cybercontroller falling into the exploding power planet in slow motion, screaming "NOOOOOOoooo!" and then somehow disappearing entirely ages before he reaches the flames.

Thank Rassilon we've moved on from then (*remembers Clara's slo-mo fall on Christmas*)... Fuck.

 

[DalekJim]

I'd rather sleep with Jenna-Louise Coleman than Roger Lloyd Pack's exposed brain so I allow it.

Also, the worst part of that train-wreck is the cliffhanger resolution in Age of Steel's intro where 10 used the deus ex machina and proceeds to waste 10 seconds explaining why he can never use it ever again.

 

[DWF]

Regardless of who's in charge Eccleston has stated that he's not coming back. And I personally liked the alternate reality Cybermen at least they were menacing, they were just overused a bit Closing Time was one too many stories to use them, even though they were meant to be the Mondasian Cybermen.

 

[Rarewolf]

Given that none of his predecessors claim to have been approached either, I reckon one way they might get around it would be have 4-9 do voiceovers. Hear the Doctor's thought processes perhaps. That wouldn't need anything like the sort of commitment. He might be willing to record a few lines in a London studio.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

So, now that the "senior people" he had an issue with are gone it's more likely he'd come back.

Except that Eccleston said in his Graham Norton interview last year that, yes, even though there's been a change in guard and he has the highest regard for Moffat's scripts he won't return.

 

[DalekJim]

So, now that the "senior people" he had an issue with are gone it's more likely he'd come back.

Except that Eccleston said in his Graham Norton interview last year that, yes, even though there's been a change in guard and he has the highest regard for Moffat's scripts he won't return.

Wait, did you read my post? I said I didn't think he'd return in the very next sentence .

 

[Mr Awe]

It could just as easily mean media people he's dealt with in the past, as he says - he's always acted for adults in the past and had to put up with bullshit and cocktail parties.

There's no specific reference in it to anyone. None of us actually know what happened but most of us also aren't desperate to jump to conclusions.

No, senior people in this context would not include the media. Media are neither senior nor subordinate to an actor. They're external people that are not in the chain at all. It's clearly senior BBC people. It's got to include RTD. If RTD and Eccleston were in agreement about how things should be run on the show, the other senior BBC wouldn't have mattered.

Mr Awe

You do realise that media people would also include TV executives, producers etc. Media doesn't just mean journalists.

Not in common parlance does "the media" include executives or producers! Generally just journalists.

Mr Awe

 

[Mr Awe]

It could just as easily mean media people he's dealt with in the past, as he says - he's always acted for adults in the past and had to put up with bullshit and cocktail parties.

There's no specific reference in it to anyone. None of us actually know what happened but most of us also aren't desperate to jump to conclusions.

No, senior people in this context would not include the media. Media are neither senior nor subordinate to an actor. They're external people that are not in the chain at all. It's clearly senior BBC people. It's got to include RTD. If RTD and Eccleston were in agreement about how things should be run on the show, the other senior BBC wouldn't have mattered.

Mr Awe

RTD didn't run the BBC - he was senior person in DW, not senior at the BBC...

True and I'm very aware that. But, I'm guessing that if RTD was firmly in Eccleston's corner, the other brass wouldn't matter. That's a guess but a reasonable one

At the very least, if RTD was not a problem in Eccleston's book, I think we would've heard some language from Chris that excluded Davies from his general comments out of courtesy.

Mr Awe

 

[DalekJim]

Not in common parlance does "the media" include executives or producers! Generally just journalists.

Mr Awe

I agree with your other points but have to correct you here. People working in "the media" would include anybody working in TV, radio, film, etc.

 

[Mr Awe]

Not in common parlance does "the media" include executives or producers! Generally just journalists.

Mr Awe

I agree with your other points but have to correct you here. People working in "the media" would include anybody working in TV, radio, film, etc.

It may be a British thing, but here in the states when we talk about the media, it's the press, not executives or producers. But, it does include print and broadcast media.

Mr Awe