Earth-Romulan wars
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Stiles' ancestors fought in it. Kirk was surprised he knew what a Romulan ship would look like after 100 years, and he started listing off family members fron that time.
The Tomed Incident is established as occurring in 2311 in The Neutral Zone. It involved Romulans somehow and ended with them going into isolation again.
Stiles refers to "family history." That expression itself does not necessarily mean it involved members of one's immediate family. And in this case it obviously doesn't mean that.
I claim certain historic wars from decades and centuries ago as part of my family history, too.
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The episode came out in the mid 1960, a century after the end of the American civil war.
My understanding is that the war was still surprising fresh in the awareness of the American collective consciousness. People could reel off the names of ancestors who fought, what their various units were called, what battles they were involved in, and in some cases where they were killed.
I think Stiles was supposed to have been modeled on such people. A century might be ancient history for some people, but for someone like Stiles it's like yesterday.
As a child he would sit on the floor and listen to his elders tell the family stories over and over. They're a part of him.
I remember my grandmother telling and retelling the story of the small boat that brought her from Cuba. the engine dying and then a storm coming up in the middle of night, how scared she was. The story is a part of me.
My understanding is that the war was still surprising fresh in the awareness of the American collective consciousness. People could reel off the names of ancestors who fought, what their various units were called, what battles they were involved in, and in some cases where they were killed.
I think Stiles was supposed to have been modeled on such people. A century might be ancient history for some people, but for someone like Stiles it's like yesterday.
As a child he would sit on the floor and listen to his elders tell the family stories over and over. They're a part of him.
I remember my grandmother telling and retelling the story of the small boat that brought her from Cuba. the engine dying and then a storm coming up in the middle of night, how scared she was. The story is a part of me.
Yes.
Yeah, that's the plot of Disco's first season. But let me guess, we're discussing what is colloquially know as "TOS Purity" here that ignores the existence of Abrams Filth and Usurping Disco (I'll work on that later)? In that case, war were declared in Errand of Mercy. And resolved in the same episode.
There was never an all out Earth Klingon war in the TOS universe.
Citation needed. (No unfilmed cut lines or offscreen statements of "authorial intent" please.)
I'll wait...
Now, if we were talking about the Kelvin Timeline, you might have something there...except not even then, so far as Marcus was concerned!
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Right, bro. Because when two fleets go at it, it's totally not all out war.
Oh let me guess, all out war requires the presence of two militaries, and if there's one thing Starfleet isn't...
"Errand of Mercy"
Don't forget the Four Years War.
The war after that will be a dozy,though. With the millions of dead and such.
I think you meant during TOS.
It is unclear what the scope of previous hostilities with the Klingons was, but they existed.
I don't believe that is canon.
I don't think that was ever actually mentioned in on-screen canon. It was from a Trek role playing game.
Edit: Ninja'd by BillJ.
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