We see 23rd century London in STID.
Earth's power grid is controlled in Lisbon, according to DS9 Homefront/Paradise Lost.
Earth cities in the 24th century
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What the actual fuck happened to Paris between 2257 and 2399
Is it any wonder so many of us choose to ignore a lot of DSC visuals?
Sure, we can conjecture that urban renewal efforts between 2257 and 2342(the date of Picard's and Jenice Manheim's date at the café in Paris) resulted in a lot of buildings being torn down and replaced but on the other hand...why?DSC is a good-looking and ambitious show but damn, do a lot of its visuals make little or no sense in the context of the wider franchise.
Perhaps it's the Vegas one XD
Or maybe Paris, Tennessee. It has its own Eiffel Tower.
It would make sense for cities in the future to be rebuilt a lot. I mean, why not? It's gonna get cheaper, while OTOH land will probably get more precious and the incentive to cycle it between a great number of buildings will increase. Every now and then, an old building might be restored. Or the entire look of the city completely redone according to some principle or another, and then again allowed to grow diverse.
Starfleet Command for its part would get rebuilt just because demands on it grow. But also whenever somebody attacks it, of course. The Breen were the first conventional enemies to push through with an attack, but lots of unconventional ones could have done their share of urban renewal around the Golden Gate at various times.
Timo Saloniemi
Starfleet Command for its part would get rebuilt just because demands on it grow. But also whenever somebody attacks it, of course. The Breen were the first conventional enemies to push through with an attack, but lots of unconventional ones could have done their share of urban renewal around the Golden Gate at various times.
Timo Saloniemi
Going way OT, but does anyone else remember the Thunderbirds episode where they were moving the Empire State Building, and it fell over? Traumatized me as a kid.
What the actual fuck happened to Paris between 2257 and 2399
Different angle, perhaps? I mean, consider the city today. Looking south from the Eiffel Tower you see old world Paris. Looking north you see clusters of modern skyscrapers.
Riker said "most of the major cities have been destroyed" with "very few governments left".
Presumably major strategic centers were hit, Beijing, Moscow, DC, etc. In the the grand scheme of things San Francisco and Boston have little strategic value beyond being able to kill a lot of people who live there.
IIRC we didn't see historic buildings in London in Into Darkness, so it could easily simply have been rebuilt.
I'll be interested to see if we get to see a 24th Century Tokyo or such.
We did
The angle in Picard would show a few of those new buildings.
Thanks. Completely forgot about that line.
Well we know NYC still exists as the Ferengi make pilgrimages to Wall Street.
We don't know what kind, yield, with what frequency or what cities were targeted with nukes. They could have been low-yield targeting specific structures/areas, they could have been neutron bombs (almost no blast damage, purely radiation to kill people quickly), the majority of the strikes could have been in the Eastern Coalition (I mean they did lose, the US and Europe emerged with their governments and societies intact), etc.
I kinda want to see a Short Trek that covers WW3 a bit.
We don't know what kind, yield, with what frequency or what cities were targeted with nukes. They could have been low-yield targeting specific structures/areas, they could have been neutron bombs (almost no blast damage, purely radiation to kill people quickly), the majority of the strikes could have been in the Eastern Coalition (I mean they did lose, the US and Europe emerged with their governments and societies intact), etc.
I kinda want to see a Short Trek that covers WW3 a bit.
ENT had the perfect chance to address the carnage of World War III and didn't. A shame. That series began less than a century after the war and was the closest to the conflict of any of them.
John Frederick Paxton talks about Colonel Green and the millions of people affected with radiation sickness but that's about all we got.
John Frederick Paxton talks about Colonel Green and the millions of people affected with radiation sickness but that's about all we got.
And San Francisco was more or less pristine in it..hell it looks better than SF today
I don't put much stock in any of these FX. There's no unity of vision between the two concurrent Trek series. And I don't think there's much broader consideration for actual life on Earth during the respective time-periods. They're little more than slapdash filler effects thrown together to suggest "da future" that could be from any sci-fi series.
ENT would have been the perfect opportunity to show a far grittier Trek with a slowly healing planet; a stark, lawless, and dangerous astropolitical environment; and primitive Earth ships with bigger engines, weapons, and fewer creature comforts, closer in design NASA spliced with modern militaries spliced with alien techs.
We only saw the shipyard facilities IIRC..not any cities?
