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Dying with your eyes open

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Let's not worry about who it is, or what the belief, but please, for one moment, let's all sit here, all of us who recoginize the wonder, and let's all sit here and soak in the fact, that, right before our eyes, we saw a belief change.

He had a belief, then he sought out evidence, then he changed his belief becuase all the evidence suggested something else was true.

Let's just all soak in that miracle.

I mean, that's a pretty random thing to say.

Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

Is this just another way of making fun of how I talk?
 
Shaka, when the walls fell. Your point?

Oh god, I don't think I've seen in since like 92, but I remember that episode.

That's one of those that's great to watch the first time, but never ever ever again.

Like very episode of Voyager.
 
Shaka, when the walls fell. Your point?

It's a topic about your eyes being open upon death, ThankQ was talking about people being enlightened by new evidence (which is what that particular Tamarian metaphor was about), and you were saying he talked kind of funny. I was going for the trifecta.
 
It seems to be getting increasingly common in TV and movies for characters to die with their eyes open. This is often followed by a dramatic moment where another character closes their eyes.

Now, my question is, how often do real people die with their eyes open? How often do people die mid-conversation? In most cases I would imagine (even in the case of sudden trauma like a gun shot wound) that people would pass out before they actually die.

Having characters die with their eyes open, to me, seems to imply that their brain just stops while they're in the middle of something, and that seems bizarre to me.

Um, not quite uncommon, but the closing the eyes, as is done on TV/movies won't quite work that way. Go back far enough and you'll see that it used to be people used small coins to hold the eyelids down for when rigor mortis sets in place.

Also, I can sleep with my eyes open.

I don't believe that.

Believe it. When I was in the Navy, we were conducting an at sea replenishment during which time we had a long wait on station before starting the evolution. One of the men there was so tired, that he fell asleep, but his eyes were half-way open. It was very freaky, because he looked like he was dead.
 
Sometimes when my dogs fall asleep their eyes are half open...and then their eyeballs roll into the back of their head. Talk about freaky looking.
 
Let's not worry about who it is, or what the belief, but please, for one moment, let's all sit here, all of us who recoginize the wonder, and let's all sit here and soak in the fact, that, right before our eyes, we saw a belief change.

More than that, we saw a belief change on an Internet forum.

Perhaps there is a God after all.
 
I find it fairly mundane.

Well, I suppose then you and I must inhabit different worlds.

In my world people change beliefes, even mundane, benign beliefes, very rarely.

Strangely, even more rarely than a changing belief is somone actually looking for evidence, one way or another, about his belief.
Yeah, but Roger Wilco lives in Austria, not the US. ;)

Sometimes when my dogs fall asleep their eyes are half open...and then their eyeballs roll into the back of their head. Talk about freaky looking.
My cat did the same. Freaky.
 

I'm sorry, I had no idea it was possible for humans to do that. But after googling a little apparently it is.

Sure, no problem. I just wasn't sure how to respond to that! I'm not in the habit of making up things in order to get attention. The sleeping with eyes open thing isn't something I've done in a long time, and it apparently does freak people out. The first time (that I'm aware of) where I did it, my friends thought I was just kind of spacing out until they talked to me and I was completely unresponsive.

How is that random? In a world where the slightest belief in the absurd is held in the highest regard, one who changes a belief in a matter of a few minutes is nothing short of amazing.

The poster had doubt, he confronted his doubt, he examined his doubt, and all the evidence that he found told him that his doubt was wrong, so he abandoned that doubt and embraced what the evidence he discovered suggest was true.

Perhaps I'm alone, but I think that is utterly beautiful.

I think it's pretty beautiful too, actually.
 
The norm for people's experience with the dead, I HOPE, is that they see a deceased person in their casket at the funeral home. Because the morticians always sew the eyes closed, it stands to reason that our paradigm for dead bodies is that their eyes will automatically be closed. Because your eyelids remain in whatever position they were in when you died, this paradigm is false, and shocking when reality challenges it.

I suspect that because of this paradigm, for a long time Standards and Practices mandated that when a TV character died, their eyes be automatically closed. And, like many things that have changed over time on TV (such as married couples being allowed to be shown in the same bed -- The Brady Bunch or interracial kissing -- Star Trek) that Standards and Practices no longer cares about this particular paradigm. They're more interested, after all, in making sure that no one ever sees Janet Jackson's nipple again.
 
Happens pretty much all the time. The untimely deaths/head shots etc I've seen all had half open eyes.
 
Let's not worry about who it is, or what the belief, but please, for one moment, let's all sit here, all of us who recoginize the wonder, and let's all sit here and soak in the fact, that, right before our eyes, we saw a belief change.

More than that, we saw a belief change on an Internet forum.

Perhaps there is a God after all.
We need to archive this Thread to use it as an example for future generations.
 
When I first saw the title, I read, 'driving with your eyes open'. My first reaction was, 'this really shouldn't be up for discussion.'
 
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