DWM 447 Cover (SPOILER if you've been on Mars for a few months)
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I think they did it to have a story where there was a new generation of Daleks for a new Doctor. Having new toys is just gravy, but unlikely the main reason, IMO.
^^The New Paradigm do have some obvious design differences.
That's a great cover.
With regards to the redesign, you can see why the decision was made and it's logical on a multitude of levels.
1.RTD era Daleks were (supposedly) designed so that Billie could look them in the eyestalk. Karen's a lot taller.
2. The larger size also means a better ergonomic 'ride' for the operators.
3. The larger size was also supposed to make them more menacing, to make them feel more like mini-tanks.
4. As great as they were RTD era Dalaks were a trifle generic at times, so the variation in colour was a welcome change.
5. There is probably a marketing angle, new Daleks in a multitude of colours = £££s
The problem comes in the execution. Rather than making them seem more formidable, the size increase makes them seem more cumbersome, and the colours are just a trifle too light and perfect, making them seem more like a range of options on a new car. "The new Dalek comes in Sunshine yellow, dazzling white, bold blue, radiant red and warm orange."
Having said that, the design's actually grown on me, and having seen them in the flesh (Dr Who Live) they are actually more imposing, unfortunately it doesn't neccesarily come across that way on screen.
With regards to the redesign, you can see why the decision was made and it's logical on a multitude of levels.
1.RTD era Daleks were (supposedly) designed so that Billie could look them in the eyestalk. Karen's a lot taller.
2. The larger size also means a better ergonomic 'ride' for the operators.
3. The larger size was also supposed to make them more menacing, to make them feel more like mini-tanks.
4. As great as they were RTD era Dalaks were a trifle generic at times, so the variation in colour was a welcome change.
5. There is probably a marketing angle, new Daleks in a multitude of colours = £££s
The problem comes in the execution. Rather than making them seem more formidable, the size increase makes them seem more cumbersome, and the colours are just a trifle too light and perfect, making them seem more like a range of options on a new car. "The new Dalek comes in Sunshine yellow, dazzling white, bold blue, radiant red and warm orange."
Having said that, the design's actually grown on me, and having seen them in the flesh (Dr Who Live) they are actually more imposing, unfortunately it doesn't neccesarily come across that way on screen.
as I said above I have no problem with the new height, but after that its all down hill.
maybe I speak as too much of a new series fan, but the RTDs Daleks were a great design, and one that worked in other colours as well, Dalek Sec looked awesome in black.
Looking at the picture, I do think one of them should have been the modern "Special Weapons Dalek" that would have accounted for some of the bulk.
maybe I speak as too much of a new series fan, but the RTDs Daleks were a great design, and one that worked in other colours as well, Dalek Sec looked awesome in black.
Looking at the picture, I do think one of them should have been the modern "Special Weapons Dalek" that would have accounted for some of the bulk.
the thing i hated about the new ones was the hump at the back.
^Yeah, I didn't care for that, either. Plus the new "fashion" colors are a bit much.
I didn't care for the design much myself. Of course, it wasn't helped out by the fact that the first story the new Daleks were in was terrible!! They mostly stood and around and talked! Not a good first impression!
The RTD design is my favorite. I thought they looked very solid and tank-like. However, they shouud never plan/build a longer term villian around a short-term companion. Short sighted. Although, the RTD Daleks would work fine with taller people I'm sure.
Mr Awe
The RTD design is my favorite. I thought they looked very solid and tank-like. However, they shouud never plan/build a longer term villian around a short-term companion. Short sighted. Although, the RTD Daleks would work fine with taller people I'm sure.
Mr Awe
Yeah its been shown multiple times that the eyestalk can raise depending who the Dalek is talking to so tall people aren't an issue with them
Dalek Sec has been my favourite Dalek so far.
Something is just so cool about a Dalek in black.
(Can't see him in the picture though sadly...I guess he was only Black because he was Leader of the Cult of Skaro but was hoping for another Black 2005 Era Dalek)
Quite liked the Dalek Supreme too...even if he didn't do much but stand there.
the RTDs Daleks worked in every colour thrown at them, of course part of the problem with the Progenitor Daleks, is not the colour themselves, its the plastic look that they have, ok the colours are bright but they could be toned down without too much fuss.
I think Dalek Sec is behind the WW2 Dalek, which totally stole the show from the Progenitor Daleks.
I think Dalek Sec is behind the WW2 Dalek, which totally stole the show from the Progenitor Daleks.
This has so much awesome plastered over it that it can only be a disappointment.
Short term companions? Billie Piper was with the show for two seasons, and Karen Gillan for two and a half. That's longer than most nuWho companions.
I think the reason for why the Daleks were built for Billie Piper's height was to help her performance in the episode Dalek, while the New Paradigm were simply built for Gillan's height because she was the companion and the RTDaleks were designed for the current companion.
Companions are short-term compared to the Doctors, the series, and the Daleks. Building Daleks based on the height of the companion who will be gone in a couple of years is a bit silly.
Mr Awe
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