DVD vs Bluray.

[Mage]

On the other hand, upscaling does wonders in some cases ... that's my experience, for what it's worth.

I think that all depends on the source dvd. I once borrowed the first season of Torchwood from someone, and it looked horrible when upscaled by my brplayer. On Native, it looked fine. Avatar, same story. It's the encoding or something I guess, or perhaps wether or not it's a dual-layer dvd. I know that the LOTR Extended dvds are dual-layered, and they worked great when upscaled.

It's really not as simple as BR is always better.

 

[Mage]

And like Lokai said, I have a 32" Full HD tv and Blurayplayer, so the effect won't be that amazing. Now, if it was a 40" screen, it would be a different story.

Even at 32" (I have both 32" and 40" sets), the TOS and TNG Blu-ray discs are simply mindblowing compared to their DVD counterparts.

I haven't been able to compare TNG dvd with TNG bluray, all I know is that the Bluray for TNG I saw sofar was fantastic.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

The best carrier is BluRay, without a question. But I'd rather accept inferior picture quality in trade for the unaltered version of a movie/series. See my comment about the chopped-off fade-outs on the BDs ... it's completely ruining it for me, no matter how good the picture quality might be.

Oso, I must admit I haven't noticed this at all, but you've got me concerned now! Could you direct me to a particular episode and fade-out so I can compare with my DVD's?

 

[Oso Blanco]

Oso, I must admit I haven't noticed this at all, but you've got me concerned now! Could you direct me to a particular episode and fade-out so I can compare with my DVD's?

It's hard to point out a particular example without watching the whole thing again. The first time I noticed it, I posted about it in the Enterprise BD thread. It was about the episode "Unexpected" ... at 25:34, right after Phlox told Trip that he's pregnant. It might not be significant to most people, but I found it very annoying.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Oso, I must admit I haven't noticed this at all, but you've got me concerned now! Could you direct me to a particular episode and fade-out so I can compare with my DVD's?

It's hard to point out a particular example without watching the whole thing again. The first time I noticed it, I posted about it in the Enterprise BD thread. It was about the episode "Unexpected" ... at 25:34, right after Phlox told Trip that he's pregnant. It might not be significant to most people, but I found it very annoying.

I've just checked, and you're absolutely right - it's actually quite pronounced unfortunately. The same problem is also present on the TNG "Best Of Both Worlds" standalone BD, but not on the individual episodes in the season 3/4 BD sets - bizarre.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Still, I always advocate going for the best home video carrier available nevertheless.

The best carrier is BluRay, without a question. But I'd rather accept inferior picture quality in trade for the unaltered version of a movie/series. See my comment about the chopped-off fade-outs on the BDs ... it's completely ruining it for me, no matter how good the picture quality might be.

There's been a lot of discussion online that a lot of older movies released on blu-ray are having the color grading/timing changed. Often, it seems to bring them in line with the dreaded teal and orange look.

 

[Oso Blanco]

There's been a lot of discussion online that a lot of older movies released on blu-ray are having the color grading/timing changed. Often, it seems to bring them in line with the dreaded teal and orange look.

Or the blue look ... see TWOK.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Sorry, but I don't agree. Some older series and movies are simply upscaled to appear HD, which can sometimes result in pretty lousy quality. My br-player is set to play everything in Native settings, meaning a dvd is not upscaled. I've seen the effect of upscaling, and sometimes it's just horrible.

ENT was mastered in HD. It neither required a remaster nor upscaling. It was always already in full HD. So, yes, it's the same resolution as the TNG remaster.

On the other hand, upscaling does wonders in some cases ... that's my experience, for what it's worth.

Upscaling adds no new resolution, it just prevents the image from looking like total crap on an HD TV.

 

[RAMA]

The basic thing you need to know: Even though it was filmed in HD, Enteprise is only 480p on DVD. On bluray it will actually be "HD".

RAMA

 

[MacLeod]

^480p on NTSC DVD.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

The basic thing you need to know: Even though it was filmed in HD, Enteprise is only 480p on DVD. On bluray it will actually be "HD".

At best, extremely average HD - comparatively speaking. At worst, well, pretty poor HD IMHO. But yes, HD it is.

 

[RAMA]

^480p on NTSC DVD.

Only kind we have here.

 

[Mage]

Well, I do have the boxset now, which was a grand total of 42,50 euro, thanks to a discount. Image quality is just fine on my blurayplayer set to native and a FullHD 100hz 32" LED TV.

Only thing I need to worry about now is, some reviewers of this boxset have complained that a lot of discs in this set malfunction, with stuttering images or not loading at all. Sofar, into disc three of season 1 and watched In A Mirror Darkly, and everything is fine. So, we'll see what happens.
I only found out about that after I had purchased the set, fortunatly I bought it at the store I work at, so if anything goes wrong, it's for me to return the set.

 

[FrontierTrek]

We have a nice comparison showing the difference between DVD and Blu-ray quality for "In a Mirror, Darkly" up on Youtube. Watch it at 1080p resolution full screen to get a better idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLspL9_6liA

 

[Keith1701]

Hm.... sofar, I'm leaning towards the dvds then.

I still like DVD's as well. One of my main reasons that I have a 5 disc DVD/CD player and 5 disc player isn't availale at this time on Blue Ray at this time. A 5 disc player makes it much easier to watch Seasons of Star Trek and other television series.

 

[Mage]

Hm.... sofar, I'm leaning towards the dvds then.

I still like DVD's as well. One of my main reasons that I have a 5 disc DVD/CD player and 5 disc player isn't availale at this time on Blue Ray at this time. A 5 disc player makes it much easier to watch Seasons of Star Trek and other television series.

That sounds handy.

It's not that I like DVD better, but over here a season is 40 euros on Bluray, and I could get the entire series on dvd for 42,50. So the math was a lot easier.

If, in a few years time, the blurays become available as a set at a good price, I might go for those. Same reason I haven't bought TNG on bluray yet.