Poll Dune (2021) Spoiler/Rating Thread

[wayoung]

Did my second watch in IMAX today. First movie I've seen twice in theatres since I worked at one and got to go for free.

There was one moment that jumped out at me in both viewings I didn't mention before.

I'm mostly disappointed with Paul's visions in this adaptation, but when he's in the tent with Jessica tripping balls on spice and freaking out from his visions and begs for someone to help him....

As someone who has been in both Paul and Jessica's positions, trapped in trauma flashbacks/nightmares/deja vu timeloops, that was so well done. So realistic. Heartbreakingly real.

Oh, and they adjusted the sound mixing somehow? Maybe an update went out to theaters? I dunno, but the music was not nearly as overpowering this time.

 

[JD]

You seem to think I was saying that the 84 movie didn't change the ending. That's not what I said.

If they do something that substantially changes the story that is worthy of spoiler notification. If they don't change the story there are no spoilers because anyone can look up what happens. Anyone. A book, two movies, this movie of the first half of the story. All of them are pretty much the same. Spoiler should only apply if there's something new and different and exciting that no one's expecting. Plotting along the same old story with the same points means there are no spoilers.

Sorry to go back to such an old post, but I really wanted to respond to this.
Even if the book is out there, and people can find out what happens, doesn't mean people are going to want to. Some people might still want to go into the movie not knowing what is going to happen, so I really think the decent thing to do is to keep using spoiler codes until the movie is out.

 

[yotsuya]

Sorry to go back to such an old post, but I really wanted to respond to this.
Even if the book is out there, and people can find out what happens, doesn't mean people are going to want to. Some people might still want to go into the movie not knowing what is going to happen, so I really think the decent thing to do is to keep using spoiler codes until the movie is out.

I was conditioned by my best friend in HS to never so much as hint at a spoiler. But I still think it is ridiculous to worry about it when it is history or a faithful adaption.

 

[wayoung]

Sorry to go back to such an old post, but I really wanted to respond to this.
Even if the book is out there, and people can find out what happens, doesn't mean people are going to want to. Some people might still want to go into the movie not knowing what is going to happen, so I really think the decent thing to do is to keep using spoiler codes until the movie is out.

Dude's just trolling for attention, he knows the rules & conventions here as well as anyone else. If he seriously had an issue with it for whatever dumbass reason and wanted to make it a hill to die on he'd be asking the admins in the Questions sub, not posting here.

 

[fireproof78]

I was conditioned by my best friend in HS to never so much as hint at a spoiler. But I still think it is ridiculous to worry about it when it is history or a faithful adaption.

I think spoilers in general are ridiculous but that's not for me to decide. Other's have a more strict view and I'll respect that first and foremost. Call it overly polite.

 

[maneth]

I gave it a solid A, and I'm really looking forward to part 2. Certainly the best adaptation I've seen, and the only one I haven't seen is the one by Jodorowsky, with Sir Patrick Stewart.

 

[crookeddy]

I gave it a solid A, and I'm really looking forward to part 2. Certainly the best adaptation I've seen, and the only one I haven't seen is the one by Jodorowsky, with Sir Patrick Stewart.

Huh? Jodorowsky one was famously never made...

 

[Kai "the spy"]

And Patrick Stewart was in the Lynch one.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I understand an adaptation of Jodorowsky and Moebius's The Incal is going to be made by Taika Waititi. That graphic novel series took a lot of elements from the work they did to adapt Dune for cinema, although the project never made it to the screen.

Taika Waititi to Adapt Legendary Graphic Novel ‘The Incal’ as Feature Film (Video) (thewrap.com)

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[maneth]

Huh? Jodorowsky one was famously never made...

True, which is why I've never seen it. That was probably too meta, though... I'd love to see the documentary about it, though.

 

[theenglish]

Personally I just want real looking color. Not over the top color. Not Snyder color. Just real looking color. The MCU gives me this and DC movies for the most part do not. (As an example of what I mean)

That is an interesting statement to me. Once you get outside of a city and into the natural world, I have always found the colour scheme of "real life" to be much more intense than nearly anything I see on film or television. Part of that has been the limited technology and techniques of film development and technology but that shouldn't be a problem any longer.

I want to see a forest or jungle on screen that has the multitude of shades and hues of green in the spring, or the variations of brown and whites in the winter, the brilliant yellows and reds of autumn. The intense blue of the sky. Most of the time, on film, these colors are muted.

 

[Commander Troi]

That is an interesting statement to me. Once you get outside of a city and into the natural world, I have always found the colour scheme of "real life" to be much more intense than nearly anything I see on film or television. Part of that has been the limited technology and techniques of film development and technology but that shouldn't be a problem any longer.

I want to see a forest or jungle on screen that has the multitude of shades and hues of green in the spring, or the variations of brown and whites in the winter, the brilliant yellows and reds of autumn. The intense blue of the sky. Most of the time, on film, these colors are muted.

Agreed. Here in urban Phoenix, everything is very muted and beige. I need to get out of it to remember that Arizona itself has far more variety.

 

[crookeddy]

That is an interesting statement to me. Once you get outside of a city and into the natural world, I have always found the colour scheme of "real life" to be much more intense than nearly anything I see on film or television. Part of that has been the limited technology and techniques of film development and technology but that shouldn't be a problem any longer.

I want to see a forest or jungle on screen that has the multitude of shades and hues of green in the spring, or the variations of brown and whites in the winter, the brilliant yellows and reds of autumn. The intense blue of the sky. Most of the time, on film, these colors are muted.

Oh yeah, I agree. Directors these days rely on color muting to set a mood far too much. Given that it's considered a legitimate film making technique, I accept it for dune. They wanted too show how deadly this planet is, not how beautiful.

 

[theenglish]

Saw both Dune yesterday. I enjoyed the movie very much. It was the big screen version of Dune that I've been waiting 30 years to see so I am glad I didn't wait for it to come out on home streaming. The attention to details and design features of ship's and costumes was remarkable. The plot and visuals were clear enough for anyone to feel comfortable watching the movie. I saw it with my family, none of whom have read the novel, and they were all impressed with the stillsuits and tent design as much as the thopters and personal shileds. The acting was great as well. I loved the scene of Paul and the mouse when he emerged from the tent. The worms design was fantastic as well--I can't wait for the scenes we are going to see in the sequel.

 

[theenglish]

Oh yeah, I agree. Directors these days rely on color muting to set a mood far too much. Given that it's considered a legitimate from making technique, I accept it for dune. They wanted too show how deadly this planet is, not how beautiful.

Yep, I had a similar experience when I moved back to the country after living in cities for my entire adult life.

What gets me is that I know it is possible. National Geographic photos are vibrant. The videos playing on televisions in stores are incredibly vibrant and clear. Some Blu Rays (like a number of the Marvel movies are great showing vibrant colors in CGI action scenes but then landscapes are muted and dull. I just watched Eternals as well this weekend, and couldn't believe how these vistas that should have been stunning just appeared muted and dull. I actually really want to own Dune on Blu Ray now, if the transfer restores the intensity of color and detail that I know must have been captured on film.

 

[Moist_Cake]

Watched Dune twice now. Apologies if this was brought up in the thread already, but do the ornithopters have auto-pilot? It seemed Jessica hit the controls, and the impression I got was she engaged the AP. I assuming I am wrong, as I understand it, there are no computers like that in this 'universe'.

I have never read the novels or watched the TV shows. So I don't have that knowledge unfortunately.

 

[Tosk]

Watched Dune twice now. Apologies if this was brought up in the thread already, but do the ornithopters have auto-pilot? It seemed Jessica hit the controls, and the impression I got was she engaged the AP. I assuming I am wrong, as I understand it, there are no computers like that in this 'universe'.

I have never read the novels or watched the TV shows. So I don't have that knowledge unfortunately.

I don't recall the specific bit you mean, but does it fly straight or perform complex moves? Because you don't need a computer to perform basic autopilot.

 

[Moist_Cake]

I don't recall the specific bit you mean, but does it fly straight or perform complex moves? Because you don't need a computer to perform basic autopilot.

No maneuvers but it actually lands itself. But I was mistaken, it was the pilot that set it to auto not Jessica. It made a nice safe descent and landed. It could be mechanical, I was wondering if there was something in the novels regarding it maybe.

 

[XCV330]

Watched Dune twice now. Apologies if this was brought up in the thread already, but do the ornithopters have auto-pilot? It seemed Jessica hit the controls, and the impression I got was she engaged the AP. I assuming I am wrong, as I understand it, there are no computers like that in this 'universe'.

I have never read the novels or watched the TV shows. So I don't have that knowledge unfortunately.

"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind" -Orange Catholic Bible (Dune)

There were occasional creations that some thought came close to violating that prohibition but I don't recall an autopilot. Even if there were one, it wouldn't seem to be a violation. Just look at how older sidewinder heat-sinking missiles used to work. They're ingenious, but there's no computer in them at all.

 

[Timo]

Well, no electronic computer as such. Feedback mechanisms sorta qualify regardless of their nature, until at the most primitive end of the scale they no longer do... An "autopilot" that merely holds the tiller real tight should be doable even with religious fanatics watching over your drawing table with sabers drawn, and one that steers left when the vehicle goes right might be simple enough not to raise their ire and shorten your stature.

Then again, a helicopter that loses power could "auto-land" just fine without any feedback controls: it's stable when autorotating. I can't see how a 'thopter could autorotate, but of course it can glide. Although the gliding properties of the wings we see must be truly atrocious.

I love it how the angular military 'thopters look the part, by contemporary aesthetics, while Kynes' civilian craft looks like a stylish French Alouette from the sixties in comparison. The carryall is a cool take, too. Would be fun to see more aircraft designs in the sequel, even though the story doesn't really call for those.

Timo Saloniemi