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Last night, my gf of 15 months who I was in the process of purchasing an engagement ring dumped me because of something we have had dozens of conversations about: Perseverence of the Saints/Eternal security or whatever the hell you want to call the belief that once converted, you can do nothing to cause separation between you and God. I believe Apostasy is possible; she does not..

Read what St. Paul wrote about "fighting the good fight" and "running the race" -- he clearly believed that it was a constant, daily struggle to stay righteous.

Also, consider the unforgivable sin: blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. That is, once having accepted the truth, turning away from it.

When I'm asked by certain loonies "Are you saved?" the reply can ONLY be "I hope to be."


Tony
 
Or ME, who said the same thing several posts earlier :p


D'oh.

Guys, guys. You're BOTH right.

It's either YOUR dog, or it's HER dog. You need to sort it out and stick to whatever decision you reach. If it's yours: no more pictures. If it's hers: give her a week to come and pick it up.

And stop taking her calls.

And if she doesn't want it, then eat it. It's still young and should be tender. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
How was it?
Was it like pork? Or beef?


I don't know. It could have been rat or money for all I know. The stuff we ate in the Philippines was thin strips of meat about 5" in length and woven onto a ka-bob stick, cooked over a hot grille that was suspended above coals. The vendor would fan the coals and coat the meat with some awesome sauce. We'd get handfuls for some outrageous price (I'm thinking .50 for 10) and head back to the bar, giving extras to a buddy. Based on the description of dog, that may be what we were eating. It was very tender.
 
aw shit, now I have to lay off of you for a while.

NOT!


But seriously, dude, that sucks. Just give yourself time to heal, and don't try to get back together. Always a mistake. Move on.

You can't change people. I always push this book on friends because it helped me find the right person, weed out the dross, and get hitched. Yeah, it's by Jews, but it's universal. Check it out, when you're ready.

There's supposedly a rule that it takes you half as long as the relationship lasted to get over it. For what it's worth.
 
We talked for about an hour on Friday. It's obvious that we both want to get back together, but she let me know that the pressure I feel now from her to change my beliefs was felt by her from me since I want to pastor. So, we're working on that. I'm looking at not being an A/G pastor, but doing something non-denominational. This would only work if I could do it without sacrificing my core values, but I think it's possible.

It was a good conversation. While my heart still aches, I'm no longer a mess of teared up blubbler on the floor.
 
We talked for about an hour on Friday. It's obvious that we both want to get back together, but she let me know that the pressure I feel now from her to change my beliefs was felt by her from me since I want to pastor. So, we're working on that. I'm looking at not being an A/G pastor, but doing something non-denominational. This would only work if I could do it without sacrificing my core values, but I think it's possible.

It was a good conversation. While my heart still aches, I'm no longer a mess of teared up blubbler on the floor.

Does AoG consider the spouse's beliefs when deciding ordination? If so (and I would imagine that it would, at least to some extent), does it really get to that depth of permanancy of salvation?

I've known a variety of pastors who had some theological differences with their spouse, even in conservative churches. While I would imagine that some level of difference would be a dealbreaker, this particular issue doesn't strike me as being *that* big of deal. But, of course, I'm not AoG and don't really know.

In any event, God bless you and I hope this resolves itself for the best. I'm glad you're doing better, if not necessarily well yet.
 
The Assemblies of God interviews the spouse pretty extensively during the ordination process, and in most districts they're going to interview someone if you get engaged after ordination.
 
We talked again last night for about an hour. We're finding that we're much closer theologically than we thought and are reaching a lot of more common ground. :)
 
That's good to hear. Just be carefull not to rush into anything without working out as many differences as posible.
 
apostle, I think you're headed for trouble. I know we don't get along, but please think before you go backwards into that relationship.
 
I'd also advise caution. Sure, you may get back together for a while, but without a lot of work, plus understanding the REAL reasons for the breakup, it's going to happen again, and it'll be much worse the 2nd time. That's how it happened with me...
 
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