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Well, today I got indications from some mutual friends that she basically did this because she is freaking out about moving, holding me back, etc. And also because she was worried about where I would stay when I went to visit her as she doesn't know anyone.

Girl... I would get a hotel every week to see you!

Still makes no sense...why wouldn't you just stay with her on the couch?
 
Well, today I got indications from some mutual friends that she basically did this because she is freaking out about moving, holding me back, etc. And also because she was worried about where I would stay when I went to visit her as she doesn't know anyone.

Girl... I would get a hotel every week to see you!

Still makes no sense...why wouldn't you just stay with her on the couch?
:rolleyes: I've explained this too you. We have different worldviews. What is a big deal to us isn't to you.
 
Well, today I got indications from some mutual friends that she basically did this because she is freaking out about moving, holding me back, etc. And also because she was worried about where I would stay when I went to visit her as she doesn't know anyone.

Girl... I would get a hotel every week to see you!

Still makes no sense...why wouldn't you just stay with her on the couch?
:rolleyes: I've explained this too you. We have different worldviews. What is a big deal to us isn't to you.

No I get that...and not trying to derail. But it seems that sleeping on the couch is differnt than sleeping in the same bed? iSn't it?
 
Still makes no sense...why wouldn't you just stay with her on the couch?
:rolleyes: I've explained this too you. We have different worldviews. What is a big deal to us isn't to you.

No I get that...and not trying to derail. But it seems that sleeping on the couch is differnt than sleeping in the same bed? iSn't it?

Not when you're trying to set an example for others - friends, people in your church, kids, etc.
 
:rolleyes: I've explained this too you. We have different worldviews. What is a big deal to us isn't to you.

No I get that...and not trying to derail. But it seems that sleeping on the couch is differnt than sleeping in the same bed? iSn't it?

Not when you're trying to set an example for others - friends, people in your church, kids, etc.
I disagree with that. If you sleep on the couch and she sleeps in a separate bed, then it's a non-issue. Damn, I thought the Victorian Era ended almost 100 years ago!

Here's a dirty little secret: There are people in your church who either had pre-marital sex or are carrying on adulterous affairs. One or two smokes weed and there are a couple of alcoholics among the others who really enjoy Internet Porn.
 
Here's a dirty little secret: There are people in your church who either had pre-marital sex or are carrying on adulterous affairs. One or two smokes weed and there are a couple of alcoholics among the others who really enjoy Internet Porn.

And if you're Methodist, that would be one person-the minister.

*rim tap*
 
Here's a dirty little secret: There are people in your church who either had pre-marital sex or are carrying on adulterous affairs. One or two smokes weed and there are a couple of alcoholics among the others who really enjoy Internet Porn.

And if you're Methodist, that would be one person-the minister.

*rim tap*
:lol: Yeah, and let's not forget the Catholics who always tout the Reset Button (confession).
 
Here's a dirty little secret: There are people in your church who either had pre-marital sex or are carrying on adulterous affairs. One or two smokes weed and there are a couple of alcoholics among the others who really enjoy Internet Porn.
Doesn't matter, all it takes is one blue haired lady with a gossip problem to ruin his chances of anything ministry-wise, and ruin her rep as well.

It's kinda like running for office all your life, one false step and everyone knows about it and has their own feelings about why you are a bad person now.
 
Here's a dirty little secret: There are people in your church who either had pre-marital sex or are carrying on adulterous affairs. One or two smokes weed and there are a couple of alcoholics among the others who really enjoy Internet Porn.
Doesn't matter, all it takes is one blue haired lady with a gossip problem to ruin his chances of anything ministry-wise, and ruin her rep as well.

It's kinda like running for office all your life, one false step and everyone knows about it and has their own feelings about why you are a bad person now.

Oh yes -- I forgot about the gossiping hypocrites.
 
No I get that...and not trying to derail. But it seems that sleeping on the couch is differnt than sleeping in the same bed? iSn't it?

Not when you're trying to set an example for others - friends, people in your church, kids, etc.
I disagree with that. If you sleep on the couch and she sleeps in a separate bed, then it's a non-issue. Damn, I thought the Victorian Era ended almost 100 years ago!

Here's a dirty little secret: There are people in your church who either had pre-marital sex or are carrying on adulterous affairs. One or two smokes weed and there are a couple of alcoholics among the others who really enjoy Internet Porn.

Don't forget too, that-- statistically speaking-- most likely one or two in the congregation are homosexuals.
 
Statistically speaking? But churches vary so greatly in size, theology, tolerance, acceptance, and so much more. Churches can vary in size from less than ten people to many thousands. I've attended churches anywhere from about 15 people to 14,000 people.

I don't see how you can really say statistics in regards to churches. Unless you compare similar churches. They are too dissimilar to each other. In any case, everyone should go to church.

Apostle, I wish you luck and give you my prayers. No matter how this resolves just remember that God is always going to be there for you.
 
Statistically speaking? But churches vary so greatly in size, theology, tolerance, acceptance, and so much more. Churches can vary in size from less than ten people to many thousands. I've attended churches anywhere from about 15 people to 14,000 people.

I don't see how you can really say statistics in regards to churches. Unless you compare similar churches. They are too dissimilar to each other. In any case, everyone should go to church.

Apostle, I wish you luck and give you my prayers. No matter how this resolves just remember that God is always going to be there for you.

Why should "everyone go to church"? I am sorry to start the ephemeral religious/church debate, but seriously, it's a crock of shit.
 
^Yeah gotta agree there. I'm way more inclined to believe in the Gods of Norse mythology then I am in some almighty one God. Those guys in Norse Mythology worked together, not a dictatorship like Christianity.


Gotta add that I'm halfway serious here, not trying to dive this thread into TNZ territory.
 
Statistically speaking? But churches vary so greatly in size, theology, tolerance, acceptance, and so much more. Churches can vary in size from less than ten people to many thousands. I've attended churches anywhere from about 15 people to 14,000 people.

I don't see how you can really say statistics in regards to churches. Unless you compare similar churches. They are too dissimilar to each other. In any case, everyone should go to church.

Apostle, I wish you luck and give you my prayers. No matter how this resolves just remember that God is always going to be there for you.


If using the old number, 1 in 10 people are gay (I've heard numbers that ptu the number between 2% to 7% of the population,) , then even a small church would very likely, statistically speaking, at least one gay member.
 
Well, I'm doing better.

The hardest part is not getting to speak with her every day. I always loved to hear it when she called. I loved to listen, to share back... I invested so much in my relationship with her. I'm so blessed to have friends that will take me back.
 
Yes yes...its tough. It'll be tough for at least another couple of months but each day you'll wait by the phone less and less and think about her less and less until one day you won't think about her at all anymore and she'll be a memory.
 
I miss her so much. We talked last night. I asked her if she ever prayed about "us" anymore.

She said "that God would take the feelings away."

So... I'm left broken up, believing that the woman I'm in love with is not only in love with me, but hurt by it.
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Apostle: What did I tell you about "LEAVING THE TWIT ALONE" & asking her to stop calling or you'll pursue legal action? Get Caller ID & ask your phone service carrier about "Call Block".
 
Apostle: What did I tell you about "LEAVING THE TWIT ALONE" & asking her to stop calling or you'll pursue legal action? Get Caller ID & ask your phone service carrier about "Call Block".
I have a better idea. Everyone else has been supportive and offered advice that could be helpful. They also seem to understand that this isn't a math problem, and one solution won't work in every situation.

You have been domineering and projecting. You're trying to tell - nay, ORDER me - a person you've never met how to live their life and handle their emotions.

No thanks.
 
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