Dukat attracted to Nerys?
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I think he did find her attractive but knew kira found him repulsive.
Yes, he made some very blatant passes at her. It's been a long time since I watched, though, so I couldn't tell you which episodes.
Dukat craves approval and admiration from Bajorans, especially powerful Bajorans and especially female Bajorans. Kira checks all his boxes.
SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER!
(Sigh.)
I've always been certain that Garrak knew this in Civil Defence when he accused Dukat of incest.
Although, during the Dominion Occupation of Terok Nor when Daddy gave his little princess a pretty dress... She certainly mistook the gift for a romantic fluffer, and momentarily forgot that Daddy Dukat was once upon a time Space Hitler who executed or worked to death millions of Bajorans, but that dinner she decided against was probably going to involve a speech which George Lucas might get litigious about.
Zial was her sister.
It's important that his girls got along, and is the only reason he felt safe leaving them together in an enemy mine.
(Sigh.)
I've always been certain that Garrak knew this in Civil Defence when he accused Dukat of incest.
Although, during the Dominion Occupation of Terok Nor when Daddy gave his little princess a pretty dress... She certainly mistook the gift for a romantic fluffer, and momentarily forgot that Daddy Dukat was once upon a time Space Hitler who executed or worked to death millions of Bajorans, but that dinner she decided against was probably going to involve a speech which George Lucas might get litigious about.
Zial was her sister.
It's important that his girls got along, and is the only reason he felt safe leaving them together in an enemy mine.
OK, why did Bashir lie to Kira in Second Skin, telling her (off screen) that she is "completely Bajoran?"
STEPfather.
Dukat was "married" to Kira's mother for almost 8 years.
Dukat was "married" to Kira's mother for almost 8 years.
If you are not attracted to Kira at some point, you are dead inside. Or at least, down there.
And if you tried to do something about it, you might end up dead inside and out.
I like how you proclaim him to be her stepfather, but have to put married in quotation marks to justify it.
Meru was a comfort woman, a mistress. Nerys is not Dukat's daughter legally any more than she is genetically.
Common-Law Wife or Defacto Wife rules kick in after different durations under different legal codes. Where I live it's 3 years.
Of course then you have to ask how many wives you are allowed under a specific legal code before you're committing an illegal quota of polygamy.
Personally, I lived with a particular woman for almost 5 years (Some time ago.), and while we were together, and not trying to kill each other, it was very difficult not to think of each others children as our own too.
Kira Meru was a married woman with children who was taken from a refugee camp to be a so-called comfort woman for the Cardassians and ended up Dukat's mistress. That's rape and maybe kidnapping, not marriage.
It would probably be a war crime.
^ Indeed.
Rape?
At worst it was a financial transaction.
(There was a line from the evil villain on Devious Maids last week: "No son, I didn't rape her. Don't be ridiculous. You can't rape a whore.")
Loving sexy mistress in exchange for the elevation of the well being of her husband and children.
(That's why everyone in the real world drones goes to work in the morning. Well "everyone" is not a mistress, but they certainly exchange the doing of unsettling things for the well being of their loved ones.)
Here's the problem.
Meru and Dukat were both delusional.
They both forgot that she was being paid to pretend and just got on with it.
She was weak, and he was crazy.
In exchange for the fancy life Dukat was giving her, she forgot about the concentration camps and the resistance living in caves fighting to free Bajor.
That was the point of the story.
Kira's mummy was a dirty no good collaborator.
At worst it was a financial transaction.
(There was a line from the evil villain on Devious Maids last week: "No son, I didn't rape her. Don't be ridiculous. You can't rape a whore.")
Loving sexy mistress in exchange for the elevation of the well being of her husband and children.
(That's why everyone in the real world drones goes to work in the morning. Well "everyone" is not a mistress, but they certainly exchange the doing of unsettling things for the well being of their loved ones.)
Here's the problem.
Meru and Dukat were both delusional.
They both forgot that she was being paid to pretend and just got on with it.
She was weak, and he was crazy.
In exchange for the fancy life Dukat was giving her, she forgot about the concentration camps and the resistance living in caves fighting to free Bajor.
That was the point of the story.
Kira's mummy was a dirty no good collaborator.
Great description of a shell-shocked, starved, over-worked woman who has been led off of armed guards.
Yes, rape, Guy Gardener.
What do you think would've happened if she'd initially said no to Dukat's men? Do you think they would've just left her and her family alone to live out their lives in peace? I seriously doubt it! If she agreed to the sexual relationship with Dukat because her life and/or wellbeing or that of her family was threatened... that was rape. It's totally irrelevant that she developed feelings for him. If you don't understand why, look up Stockholm Syndrome.
And, yes, of course one can rape a whore.
What do you think would've happened if she'd initially said no to Dukat's men? Do you think they would've just left her and her family alone to live out their lives in peace? I seriously doubt it! If she agreed to the sexual relationship with Dukat because her life and/or wellbeing or that of her family was threatened... that was rape. It's totally irrelevant that she developed feelings for him. If you don't understand why, look up Stockholm Syndrome.
And, yes, of course one can rape a whore.
Kira has very black and white thinking and her character arc is often about learning to see that life is more complicated than that even, or especially, during war.
Her mother was ultimately a survivor using whatever tools she had for taking care of her family which included taking care of herself. If she had let her position as Dukat's sex slave psychologically and emotionally destroy her he would have lost interest in her and discarded her. Her children would no longer be fed. So by embracing the role and enjoying aspects of it (good food, physical safety, conversation) she kept this arrangement, and therefore her children, alive. This is not weakness.
Her mother was ultimately a survivor using whatever tools she had for taking care of her family which included taking care of herself. If she had let her position as Dukat's sex slave psychologically and emotionally destroy her he would have lost interest in her and discarded her. Her children would no longer be fed. So by embracing the role and enjoying aspects of it (good food, physical safety, conversation) she kept this arrangement, and therefore her children, alive. This is not weakness.
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