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[Tuskin38]

TrekMovie Review
https://trekmovie.com/2019/01/10/sp...ts-a-new-course-in-season-2-premiere-brother/

Hmm

Anthony Rapp’s performance as Lt. Commander Stamets is a standout as he is dealing not only with the loss of his partner Dr. Hugh Culber, but of the whole reason he was on board the Discovery in the first place: the now-defunct spore drive.

 

[Jadeb]

Wow, that’s very exciting. Seems like a major course adjustment. Sounds much more to my tastes.

 

[Tuskin38]

This is another review that backs my theory that 90% of the footage we’ve seen so far is from episode 1.

 

[tomalak301]

TrekMovie Review
https://trekmovie.com/2019/01/10/sp...ts-a-new-course-in-season-2-premiere-brother/

Hmm

Anthony Rapp’s performance as Lt. Commander Stamets is a standout as he is dealing not only with the loss of his partner Dr. Hugh Culber, but of the whole reason he was on board the Discovery in the first place: the now-defunct spore drive.

I hate that we have this storyline of Stamets dealing with Culber's death. In 2019 where people are craving for representation, I wanted to see an actual healthy relationship between the two of them. Now we're stuck with the same kind of dealing with someone's death that we see in most TV shows or movies. Maybe it will be good, but I wish we hadn't come to this point when the writers were hyping up this relationship to begin with.

 

[Jadeb]

Culber’s was a cheap death, and they shouldn’t have killed him. But what’s done is done, and I’m glad they’re addressing it. The way it was all but ignored in the first season was poor.

 

[Mudd]

I find it easier to treat it like the animated series and books. If they do something neat or nice with a character, I can add it to the overall character.

Like with Spock and the Abrams films. For any version of the character, I see those scenes with Amanda about Kohlinar and his rejection of the Vulcan Science Academy as part of any iteration of the character. I disregard other elements and only acknowledge them as part of a particular iteration, like Spock creating the Kobayashi Maru.

Is Spock creating the Kobayashi Maru inconsistent with earlier versions of Trek?

 

[tomalak301]

Culber’s was a cheap death, and they shouldn’t have killed him. But what’s done is done, and I’m glad they’re addressing it. The way it was all but ignored in the first season was poor.

There were a few things I had issues with in the first season, but I think Culber's death was the most disappointing plot point to say the least.

 

[Tuskin38]

Stamets is probably going to try and get him out if the spore network

 

[tomalak301]

Stamets is probably going to try and get him out if the spore network

I still think that thing that landed in Tilly was Culber. Maybe it does have a tie with the Red Angels or something. I'm trying to not get too spoiler-ish so I don't know.

 

[eschaton]

I still think that thing that landed in Tilly was Culber. Maybe it does have a tie with the Red Angels or something. I'm trying to not get too spoiler-ish so I don't know.

There was a scene in one of the trailers which showed Stamets puling something fairly large out of Tilly with some sort of electronic device. Not in a surgical sense - like as if it was occupying the same space as her but was hidden.

 

[tomalak301]

There was a scene in one of the trailers which showed Stamets puling something fairly large out of Tilly with some sort of electronic device. Not in a surgical sense - like as if it was occupying the same space as her but was hidden.

Yeah I remember that scene. It looked like a huge rock.

 

[Tuskin38]

Remember a spore did land on her in the season finale.

 

[Cyrus]

TrekMovie Review
https://trekmovie.com/2019/01/10/sp...ts-a-new-course-in-season-2-premiere-brother/

So this episode was written by Harberts, Berg and Sullivan, which is probably as expected. Former showrunners H&B are gone now,

 

[tomalak301]

Remember a spore did land on her in the season finale.

Yeah, I did mention that. I'm thinking it was supposed to symbolize Culber.

 

[Tuskin38]

So this episode was written by Harberts, Berg and Sullivan, which is probably as expected. Former showrunners H&B are gone now,

Except they were fired during the shooting of Episode 5. So I doubt that extra writing credit for Sullivan is related.

Unless they did reshoots for it.

 

[Midquest]

Another promising review!

And, I mean, Culber is certainly coming back, right? They pretty much said as much the same week (the same night, even...) that he died, and have made no secret of his return ever since, with the actors routinely saying that this was only the beginning of the relationship. In the scope of things, I expect that the death will seem like a bump in their relationship rather than a story about mourning.

I'm basing this only on public statements, not spoilers, by the way.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Enterprise already booted that out.

TOS is odd series out, it's the one most unlike all the other series.

No, Enterprise reconciled it with "Affliction"/"Divergence". The affected Klingons didn't just look human, they spoke of experiencing fear for the first time since they were children. The virus wasn't just physical, it made them into the Klingons of TOS.

But those episodes never happened according to Discovery. But "Broken Bow" did and a version of "In a Mirror, Darkly" did where the Defiant looks totally different.

 

[Timo]

TOS Klingons never happened according to TNG. Then came along DS9 and suddenly they did happen. TOS Klingons or TNG Klingons or DSC Klingons being absent has basically no bearing on whether they exist, it seems. It's thus not a good indicator of what did or didn't happen, either.

Similarly, these events show how "looking totally different" carries no weight, and isn't even qualitatively different from "looking slightly different".

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Phaser Two]

the now-defunct spore drive.

Oh, thank the stars. Literally!

 

[Cyrus]

Except they were fired during the shooting of Episode 5. So I doubt that extra writing credit for Sullivan is related.

Unless they did reshoots for it.

I wasn't implying that it was related. Sullivan is more of a TOS fan than those 2 so it would make sense to involve him in the script that brings Pike aboard.