That’s the one!
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That’s the one!
They act like the way Klingons have acted since TNG onward.
I don't see what's wrong with that.
I can understand the other things in your list, but not that.
I have to agree. The only difference is that they’re a little less “biker in space.” But the houses and all of that, honor, identity. It’s all there.
Well, except they are supposed to be TOS-era Klingons. If I just wanted TNG-era Klingons, I can go watch a multitude of 24th century episodes that deal with them.
Enterprise already booted that out.
TOS is odd series out, it's the one most unlike all the other series.
You've hit the nail on the head. The writers shouldn't be trying to tell me this all leads up to TOS.
I just go with this one. I have no problem thinking that DSC will lead directly to TOS, even if they look different.
...And, by the way, for the rest of you reading this, I'm not Campe98. We just have similar (but slightly different) avatars.
I wonder what the explanation will be for the Klingon ships we saw in S1. I suppose the sarcophagus ship is easy to explain as being an ancient model, but it seems that what we saw of their battle fleet was lacking D7s.
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We had one identified as a D-7 in "Choose Your Pain".
I think the different Houses couldn't agree about what to call a D7. "This is a D7!" "No! This is a D7!" And Starfleet classified the first thing they saw (in this series) as a D7. Maybe at the battle of Donatu V, they were still using D6s. Who knows? Now the Klingons will all agree or "agree" on what a real D7 is and let everyone else know that what they saw in DSC S1 is wrong.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they backtrack and have the first season of Discovery taking place in a slightly different universe.
I think D-7 is actually the Federation designation. The Klingons probably call it something else entirely. In "Choose Your Pain", it was a Starfleet shuttle pilot that identifies it as a D-7.
My joke wasn't really built to withstand that level of scrutiny.
But many English words are clumsy attempts to pronounce words borrowed from other languages, so maybe d'S'vin and D-7 are totally different designations.Hey, I can only work with what Discovery gives me!
I doubt it.
...And, by the way, for the rest of you reading this, I'm not Campe98. We just have similar (but slightly different) avatars.
Whew, I thought my mirror universe counterpart was back.
It is all canon... especially the stuff that is non-canon.
Substitute "canon" for "lying"...
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Well, thanks to ENT we’ve been led to believe that Starfleet adopted the Vulcan planetary classification scheme, and ultimately shortened a “Minshara” class world to be simply M-class. Perhaps something similar is at work here... To date I think only once has a non-Starfleet Klingon actually called a ship by a numerical designation (Kor, regaling youngsters about his exploits), and I’m willing to give that one a pass. Just like the Soviet Russians, Imprrial Japanese and Nazi Germans, the opposite side in many conflicts had their own designation scheme for things, with their own inconsistencies to boot.
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We know Vulcans have this bird thing going: to them, Klingon fighting vessels are "Warbirds", and a human crew relying on Vulcan expertise in cross-cultural matters and some translations further adds "Raptors" and "Birds of Prey". On the other hand, those Klingon ships do look quite a lot like birds, and some even have a feather motif to their decoration: the bird thing could be native Klingon, too.
But is it native Klingon when old Kor in DS9 refers to his former ship as a "D-5"? Or is it a translation for our benefit, similar to how his every word to fellow Klingons gets translated to English for us?
IIRC, it was the female voice of the shuttlecraft computer doing the identifying. Might be the machine was in downright error. Might be Starfleet moved D-7 from this design to another for whatever reason (some fairly obscure ones were given when WWII designations for enemy vehicles and aircraft were shifted, or ordered shifted). Might be D-7 covers both. But clearly this is yet another "we will sort it out eventually" aspect to doing this new Trek, not akin to the eventual backpedaling of every other spinoff that wanted to launch distinct from its forebears.
Timo Saloniemi
But is it native Klingon when old Kor in DS9 refers to his former ship as a "D-5"? Or is it a translation for our benefit, similar to how his every word to fellow Klingons gets translated to English for us?
IIRC, it was the female voice of the shuttlecraft computer doing the identifying. Might be the machine was in downright error. Might be Starfleet moved D-7 from this design to another for whatever reason (some fairly obscure ones were given when WWII designations for enemy vehicles and aircraft were shifted, or ordered shifted). Might be D-7 covers both. But clearly this is yet another "we will sort it out eventually" aspect to doing this new Trek, not akin to the eventual backpedaling of every other spinoff that wanted to launch distinct from its forebears.
Timo Saloniemi
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