DS9 Re-Mastered Special Effects - Droolish Ideas!

[Frontier]

So there is some talk now about re-mastering TNG. Nothing substantial, nothing concrete, but there have been "discussions" and they're doing "tests" about re-mastering TNG and, of course, the special effects.

This got my thinking...

This requires many IFs... but...

IF they re-master TNG...

And IF that leads to DS9 getting re-mastered...

What would you all think about really taking DS9's SFX to the edge and back?

Imagine getting to see the Defiant really tear the shit out of the Jem'Hadar!

Or seeing those epic fleet battles like we never imagined!

No more stock-footage in the battle scenes...

No more Rick Berman's "No Enterprise-E" rule...

Imagine getting to see the Big E and maybe some Intrepid Class, Prometheus Class, et cetera, in the Fleets during the Dominion War...

The Defiant could tear the Jem'Hadar apart like we've only ever envisioned in our dreams...

DS9 truly self-destructing in all her glory in that third season episode with Miles time-jumping (forget the title)...

Maybe we could see someone get tossed out an airlock through CGI!

Some really juicy possibilities here...

 

[ialfan]

Maybe we could get shields on all the ships in the big battles!

 

[Cicero]

Frontier said:
No more stock-footage in the battle scenes...

This alone would be worth it.

 

[Huntingdon]

^Amen!

 

[votd]

Sod remastering TNG skip straight to DS9!

 

[Russell Croutear]

TNG could certainly use it, especially in it's early seasons when they constantly showed that side view of the Enterprise. A bit more variety maybe? Also, I really hate that shot of the Borg cube following the Enterprise in Q Who?, make things like that better and I'm happy.

To be honest, aside from a couple of the very early episodes, most of DS9's special effects were very good. Just add new effects where stock footage was re-used (like in the last episode). While they're at it, they can negotiate with Terry Farrell to get images of Jadzia Dax added to the montage at the end.

 

[nx1701g]

Unfortunately we have about nine years to wait for a remastered DS9 I'm afraid

But I would love to see the battles remastered!

 

[Braxton]

Those battles in the later seasons of DS9 would be a lot better than they were. Add new classes of ships, all Galore and Hideki -class ships in SoA was annoying, show Keldons and other classes, same for the Jem'Hadar (design new ones if you must). Same for the Federation and Klingons, give some variety in their fleets. And this would be easy for the Federation since there have been so many ships over the years.

Stock footage elimination would be a major plus. I'm drooling just thinking of what they could do with DS9. The only time we should really see the Ent-E would be in WYLB. Its appearance elsewhere in the series is not needed. The Prometheus should also see some action in the finale. Just wishful thinking!

 

[BlazerBoy]

The thing is that DS9 really didn't need much in the way of SFX, because its story-telling was IMHO, several steps above TNG such that the characters and the story sold each episode, and the decently rendered shots of the Defiant and the fleet battles were just a plus to many episodes. I think DS9 is the upper limits of the series that would actually benefit from any "updating" because after it, the shows were basicaly mostly CGI SFX extravaganzas rather then charachter driven shows anyways.

Be that as it may, put me first on the list to see a re-mastered version of such visually stunning episodes as "Sacrifice of Angels" or "The Die is Cast". That would be beyond cool.

 

[Data Holmes]

Conversely there is "The Jem'Hadar"...


that battle sequence is perfect!

 

[Apogeal Alpha01]

Braxton said:
Those battles in the later seasons of DS9 would be a lot better than they were. Add new classes of ships, all Galore and Hideki -class ships in SoA was annoying, show Keldons and other classes, same for the Jem'Hadar (design new ones if you must). Same for the Federation and Klingons, give some variety in their fleets. And this would be easy for the Federation since there have been so many ships over the years.

Stock footage elimination would be a major plus. I'm drooling just thinking of what they could do with DS9. The only time we should really see the Ent-E would be in WYLB. Its appearance elsewhere in the series is not needed. The Prometheus should also see some action in the finale. Just wishful thinking!

Thumbs up from me. :thumbsup:

I just watched seasons 5 - 7 in more or less marathon fashion and I'd love to see in an enhanced version.

That said, are you talking about reshooting scenes and adding footage? Those battles in DS9 were on a pretty epic scale compared to TNG. With today's cgi e.g. that in later Star Wars trilogy, it would be beyond awesome. I'd have liked to see more of the invasion of Cardassia in the last episode, and the desctruction of the Cardassian homeworld.

Voyager had a few rather epic battles in the latter seasons that would be great to see as well.

 

[Apogeal Alpha01]

BlazerBoy said:
The thing is that DS9 really didn't need much in the way of SFX, because its story-telling was IMHO, several steps above TNG such that the characters and the story sold each episode, and the decently rendered shots of the Defiant and the fleet battles were just a plus to many episodes. I think DS9 is the upper limits of the series that would actually benefit from any "updating" because after it, the shows were basicaly mostly CGI SFX extravaganzas rather then charachter driven shows anyways.

Be that as it may, put me first on the list to see a re-mastered version of such visually stunning episodes as "Sacrifice of Angels" or "The Die is Cast". That would be beyond cool.

I agree. Wonderful punctuation to great stories. Let's see it.

 

[Navaros]

Aside from the often mentioned no stock footage, I'd also like to see on a remastered DS9:

- Weyoun always kicking Jem'Hadars' ass with telekinesis.

- Jem'Hadar randomly beaming aboard the Promenade in every episode, running around just for kicks, and being humorously chased by bumbling Bajoran deputies. This in my view would be a much funnier "running joke" than Morn never talking on-screen is.

- Baldify and goatee-ify the Sisko in every episode.

- Completely replace Jake's obcene clothing (ie: everything he wore in the first few years of the show) so that it is no longer an eyesore.

- Fix the Bajorans' hideous noses so that they are no long an eyesore.

- Completely replace the Bajorans' hideous clothing (just about everything any Bajoran ever wore except perhaps for Kira's uniform) so that they are no longer an eyesore.

- The Station using it's weapons way, way more.

- The giant warship class that killed the Valiant being used way, way more.

- Finally solve the Odo/combadge discrepancy.

- Put Weyoun, Kai Winn, Dukat etc. and all of DS9's great secondary cast members who are not in the montages, into the montages.

 

[Frontier]

Well, with TOS, they kept to fixing technical issues. Bad SFX gapes and errors and what not. I doubt they would re-do much of the other shows beyond that, too. Though, indeed, they should add Jadzia in the finale montage. That would be the one instance of altering the footage of people I would demand.

Just think how cool it might be though...

I also think the E-E should be at DS9 at the final shot of Worf's wedding, just to imply the crew of the E was present.

 

[Phily B]

The DS9 battles are still awesome, I don't think a lot of it needs redoing as it still looks good. But the use of stock footage in the last episode was annoying.

 

[MyCylon]

I think I'd probably have two wishes IF this ever happened:

- Create new effects for some of the earlier episodes (don't remember the episode but there's one amazingly bad scene with runabouts and a tractor beam somewhere that would badly need to be removed)
- Replace stock footage in the finale with all new material

That's really it. I think most of the space battles probably starting as far back as the S2 finale (or S4 at the very, very latest) were fantastic. Also, Odo's morphing effect was great so I don't think that needs additional work either.
Hmm, they could remove Sisko's hair and give him a beard for season 1 - 3, come to think of it

 

[nickyboy]

yeah re-master these bad boys, more effects (way more) get them up to HD standard, wide screen if possible

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Fix the registry number of the second Defiant so it's not bloody NX-74205 again.

I mean, come on. They did all that CGI for those incredible space battles, and they couldn't take the time to fix one sodding registry number?

 

[Jack Bauer]

I think money was more the issue.

 

[nx1701g]

Babaganoosh said:
Fix the registry number of the second Defiant so it's not bloody NX-74205 again.

Did you know that in the Fleet Battles in Tears of the Prophets at the end of Season Six if you look closely the Defiant has the name USS Defiant, but the registry of the Valiant?