DS9 films: your vision?
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If enough DS9 films had been knocked out, chances are at least one of the bunch would have been decent or better (both the TOS and TNG film franchises proved this).
Yeah I agree it's better that there never was a DS9 movie. DS9 was serialized with ongoing plotlines and character development, that is more difficult to pull off in a movie, because for that you would have to write for sequels from the beginning and, well, what if the first one isn't popular enough to greenlight more? Then you have a bunch of dangling plotlines.
And if it doesn't play to DS9's strenghts...well...what would be the point to just have a movie like the TNG ones only with the DS9 characters instead of the TNG ones?
And besides that, I don't really like any of the Star Trek movies, and they all just seem like long(er) episodes to me.
And if it doesn't play to DS9's strenghts...well...what would be the point to just have a movie like the TNG ones only with the DS9 characters instead of the TNG ones?
And besides that, I don't really like any of the Star Trek movies, and they all just seem like long(er) episodes to me.
The obvious points are Sisko's return and Bajor joining the Federation, both of which the novelverse covered at least somewhat to my satisfaction, and with more build-up than a two-hour movie would allow for.
I think they could have ended the series with the Dominion War, but a series could have focused on defeating Dukat separately. That might have been a better treatment of the character than what came in the finale.
Well, we never got that hard funk theme, a la Shaft, that Sisko deserves.
A Dukat standing on his own or the Dukat we got ("fused" with the Pah-Wraiths)?
Either. Dukat as a spiritual enemy could have been hammered out better in a movie, and more deliberately, than was done over season 7. And it could have been done without Winn.
I don't think silent films are en vogue nowadays.
And I am thankful that we did NOT get that. And I am not sure Brooks would have wanted to play it - he took the Star Trek gig in order to show black people in professional jobs and with loving relationships with families. He might have walked if Shaft in Space was the way the writers were going.
Wow, I thought I was the only one didn't really like any of the Star Trek movies! About half an hour of interesting plot per movie, with zillions on special effects, lots of exposition that's boring to people who've already seen the TV shows, most of them are neither good Star Trek nor particularly good movies.
I wonder how they'd do with a season of fewer but longer episodes, written together, with a more relaxed production schedule, cheaper than feature films but better production quality than the weekly show production line.
Sisko and how he multitask the dangers and wonderment at the edge of the frontier, but would have to face and tackle something which would effect the orbs, the wormhole aliens, and the people of Bajor. The mystery or threat should be beyond the Dominion or anything weak in plot but something epic which doesn't resort to the predictable fire all phasors and photon torpedoes or whatever new gimmick torpedo.
I always thought Star Trek was better suited to the small screen than feature films; and I can’t imagine the original actors doing a DS9 film, or new ones replacing them.
The 3 strongest Trek films-- Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, and Voyage Home-- centered around the arc of Spock becoming a martyr, then being ‘resurrected’ by his comrades. Sisko and Spock both sacrificed themselves for the greater good; however, Spock got to be a savior figure and return to his role on the ship, while Sisko had to fall into the fire caves and be left for dead or MIA. He's stuck in the Celestial Temple without his beloved wife and child. Doesn’t seem fair. But then, I guess bringing Sisko back in any form would seem too much like a repeat of Spock.
The 3 strongest Trek films-- Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, and Voyage Home-- centered around the arc of Spock becoming a martyr, then being ‘resurrected’ by his comrades. Sisko and Spock both sacrificed themselves for the greater good; however, Spock got to be a savior figure and return to his role on the ship, while Sisko had to fall into the fire caves and be left for dead or MIA. He's stuck in the Celestial Temple without his beloved wife and child. Doesn’t seem fair. But then, I guess bringing Sisko back in any form would seem too much like a repeat of Spock.
Actually I thought the resurrection of Spock was a wimpy way out for the films too. If a character dies, they need to stay dead. If they come back, it's religion, not science fiction.
Bringing Spock back wasn't character driven, or even plot driven, it was pure pandering to the audience. But after that, no one needs to take death of major characters seriously anymore. If death is only permanent for redshirts, no one else needs to fear it.
Bringing Spock back wasn't character driven, or even plot driven, it was pure pandering to the audience. But after that, no one needs to take death of major characters seriously anymore. If death is only permanent for redshirts, no one else needs to fear it.
^To be fair, the circumstances of Spock's resurrection were uncommon if not (extremely) rare; I'm not sure anyone looked at that as making death less of an issue in Trek.
OTOH, when main characters die in a way that the fans don't consider meaningful, they can have a tendency to get up in arms over it, nevermind that most people die in mundane manners.
OTOH, when main characters die in a way that the fans don't consider meaningful, they can have a tendency to get up in arms over it, nevermind that most people die in mundane manners.
First you need to introduce a new character to represent the POV of the audience since most won't be familiar with the show or the backstories. I would do a movie set 5 years in the future. Bajor has already joined the Federation off screen. The station is about to close down and be replaced with a more modern high tech base. The movie would be about the Paigh Wraiths coming out of the fire caves and basically taking over most Bajoran people on the planet and the new Starbase. Like Demon possession's.
Our new introduction character is coming aboard as the new commanding Officer. of the new station. It's her first command and she will be replacing Captain Kira who is dying from space cancer. Meanwhile we see what others are doing. O'Brien, Worf, Jake, Kassidy and Sisko's other kid, Nog who is first officer of a ship,Rom all are their visiting for the transfer celebration and to say goodbye to the old station. Quark is packing up for a new business opportunity and Bashir and Ezri are still in the same jobs and are now married and with a small child.
When the Paigh Wraiths take over the planet and station they attack the old station but the crew is able to save themselves through a action scene where some have to get the shields up while Kira uses the Defiant to disable the weapons system of the new base. Then Sisko shows up naked. He has come back to stop the Paigh Wraiths. But then Kira is beamed away to the new station. Their the Paigh Wraiths are led by Dukat or a shell of Dukat. They plan to send a signal into the wormhole that will call out this giant space monster to destroy Bajor and then earth to get revenge on Sisko. Kira escapes but is still trapped on the station with them and runs in Odo who came back because he knows about her cancer. But was on the new station because he was nervous to meet with all his old friends after so many years.
Meanwhile Sisko realizes that the only way to save the day is blow up the new station but also get the Paigh Wraiths to leave the bodies of all the people they are controlling on the planet and station. Can't contact Starfleet because they are blocking the signals but Bashir knows how to get hold of Garak who can arrange for a cloacked device that can phase through things and basically literally fly the cloaked Defiant into the base. Their they can use a tech to make the Paigh Wraiths leave. So Garak eventually arrives. Before that we get a chance to just see the characters interacting again and catching up. The new female Captain even has a thing for Worf and they have sex.
Garak arrives and they all fly into the new space station. Run into Kira and Odo and basically fight their way down to the power core and create a bomb. They use a tech signal to make the Paigh Wraiths leave so everyone now freed escape in escape pods and our heroes can't get to the ship they came in so they use the transporters to beam themselves over to the old station landing right into Quarks. The station blows and the Defiant goes with it. They then use runabouts to head to Bajor and use tech to make the Paigh Wraiths leave their bodies but during the mission Kira dies, not from battle but the cancer.
The heroes win but now Sisko has to return to the Prophets. He is able though to revive Kira and Kira gets to return with him. They say final goodbyes to their friends. Sisko has a touching moment with his family. Kira has one with Odo. Then they vanish. Then you have the epilogue were Starfleet is going to need a new station built but in the meantime this new commanding officer will command the old station. Garak decides to stay. Quark though says goodbye. Chief returns to earth and everyone else back to their old lives.
Our new introduction character is coming aboard as the new commanding Officer. of the new station. It's her first command and she will be replacing Captain Kira who is dying from space cancer. Meanwhile we see what others are doing. O'Brien, Worf, Jake, Kassidy and Sisko's other kid, Nog who is first officer of a ship,Rom all are their visiting for the transfer celebration and to say goodbye to the old station. Quark is packing up for a new business opportunity and Bashir and Ezri are still in the same jobs and are now married and with a small child.
When the Paigh Wraiths take over the planet and station they attack the old station but the crew is able to save themselves through a action scene where some have to get the shields up while Kira uses the Defiant to disable the weapons system of the new base. Then Sisko shows up naked. He has come back to stop the Paigh Wraiths. But then Kira is beamed away to the new station. Their the Paigh Wraiths are led by Dukat or a shell of Dukat. They plan to send a signal into the wormhole that will call out this giant space monster to destroy Bajor and then earth to get revenge on Sisko. Kira escapes but is still trapped on the station with them and runs in Odo who came back because he knows about her cancer. But was on the new station because he was nervous to meet with all his old friends after so many years.
Meanwhile Sisko realizes that the only way to save the day is blow up the new station but also get the Paigh Wraiths to leave the bodies of all the people they are controlling on the planet and station. Can't contact Starfleet because they are blocking the signals but Bashir knows how to get hold of Garak who can arrange for a cloacked device that can phase through things and basically literally fly the cloaked Defiant into the base. Their they can use a tech to make the Paigh Wraiths leave. So Garak eventually arrives. Before that we get a chance to just see the characters interacting again and catching up. The new female Captain even has a thing for Worf and they have sex.
Garak arrives and they all fly into the new space station. Run into Kira and Odo and basically fight their way down to the power core and create a bomb. They use a tech signal to make the Paigh Wraiths leave so everyone now freed escape in escape pods and our heroes can't get to the ship they came in so they use the transporters to beam themselves over to the old station landing right into Quarks. The station blows and the Defiant goes with it. They then use runabouts to head to Bajor and use tech to make the Paigh Wraiths leave their bodies but during the mission Kira dies, not from battle but the cancer.
The heroes win but now Sisko has to return to the Prophets. He is able though to revive Kira and Kira gets to return with him. They say final goodbyes to their friends. Sisko has a touching moment with his family. Kira has one with Odo. Then they vanish. Then you have the epilogue were Starfleet is going to need a new station built but in the meantime this new commanding officer will command the old station. Garak decides to stay. Quark though says goodbye. Chief returns to earth and everyone else back to their old lives.
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