DR. Soong?
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Works for me.
It would be downright weird if Arik and Noonien weren't related, but I guess cloning would work too.
Y'know this is one thing that gets me... Kahn's name isn't Soongh... it's SINGH - Kahn Noonian Singh - for all we knew Noonian was like Mohammaed is to Muslim names in that era.
And I'm thinking Roddenberry may have tried to think of a link to Data and Kahn, but really I think he just liked how it sounded LOL
And I'm thinking Roddenberry may have tried to think of a link to Data and Kahn, but really I think he just liked how it sounded LOL
In interviews it was said that he never heard from him.
Soong
Just watched 'Borderland' where we meet Dr Arik Soong. Now if I remember correctly he is the father of TNG's super artificial life form Data?
If that is so, then how old is this guy. I remembering him meeting his end in TNG. This would make him around the 200 year mark when dies?
Just watched 'Borderland' where we meet Dr Arik Soong. Now if I remember correctly he is the father of TNG's super artificial life form Data?
If that is so, then how old is this guy. I remembering him meeting his end in TNG. This would make him around the 200 year mark when dies?
Re: Soong
the soong that made data was noonien soong, is that the same person?
the soong that made data was noonien soong, is that the same person?
Merging Soong threads.
To clarify, we meet Dr. Arik Soong in ENT who is working on improving the existing Augments. At the end of the arc he mentions that the way to go might by cybernetics, but that it could take generations to make happen. That suggests that Arik Soong is likely the grandfather or great grandfather of Noonien, Data's creator.
Well, Coto and/or the Beebs DID say at the time he was supposed to be Noonien's great-grandpa. I know to some that's not "official canon" because there's really no logical way to describe the connection on-screen, but some things are contextually close ENOUGH that they should count.
But Dr. Arik Soong probably didn't get very far in his study of cybernetics, since Dr. Ira Graves taught Noonian Soong everything he knew!
Maybe Dr. Graves expanded on Arik's old work and passed newer, better ideas along to Noonien? Maybe Ira was a family friend who worked with him and helped Noonien with ideas he by himself had trouble bringing to fruition?
That, and his assistance to Noonien might have been somewhat over stated. Remember, by the time we meet Graves in TNG he has become a self absorbed egomaniac. Perhaps he did teach Soong 'everything he knows' about cybernetics, but maybe everything Graves knew came from the elder Soongs' work.
Arik Soong was hell bent on getting to the Briar Patch, wasn't he? I'm going to assume he did, settled on the Baku world, then changed his name when he re-emerged. That seems more likely than his great-grandkid deciding to take up his maniacal criminal ancestor's obsession with creating the perfect life form.
