Yup, this. The new movies have a big fanbase. It may not include the misogynist old coot demographic, but they have no shortage of young people enjoying them, just like the two trilogies which preceded them.
Don't give money to the last Jedi remake projects
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I've honestly found that the majority of fans either like or are indifferent to the new movies.
This just in... GQ acquired a copy of the TLJ remake script. Here’s an excerpt:
I mean, I loved TLJ. But I’m sold.
I mean, I loved TLJ. But I’m sold.
To make a comparison, for something most people thought could never happen, would make no sense, the disappointed purists were too few and couldn't be pleased anyway, X-Men: The Last Stand (Dark Phoenix movie) finally is being/was remade.
But by the same screenwriter.
But by the same screenwriter.
Yeah that won't happen.
It most likely won't make as much money as TFA, but it won't be a flop.
Not at all the same thing. The X-Men series that we had with The Last Stand is a completely different continuity than that of Dark Phoenix. (Plus, if the Disney/Fox buyout happens, hate to break it to you, but we're likely to get a third X-Men continuity.) Disney/LFL redoing TLJ would require a complete reboot. They haven't redone the prequels despite all the hate and allegations of a certain bearded man in flannel raping fan's childhoods. They ain't redoing TLJ. (I absolutely abhor that analogy, BTW, but we're about at the same point with the TLJ backlash.)
It most likely won't make as much as TLJ, but it won't be a flop.
No, it isn't. It's an earlier version of a timeline altered by time travel.
The Wolverine who went back in time in Days of Future Past and met James McAvoy's Xavier was also the Wolverine who was in The Last Stand. James McAvoy's Xavier in Dark Phoenix is the same guy who was in Days of Future Past.
Call it what you will, but it is still a reboot. When the only character that is unchanged by the events of DoFP is Logan, and the rest of the characters are changed, that to me is a reboot in the strictest sense. Or, if you want me to be even more specific: The X-Men Cinematic Universe is a wonky fucking timey-wimey mess. Entertaining as hell, sure, but I don't take the continuity seriously in the slightest.
Words used to mean things. If a given franchise has it that time travel is a thing, and then said time travel happens, and the timeline is changed, that doesn't mean a reboot happened. It just means that time travel is a thing in that franchise. It's the same continuity. Reboots don't feature characters who have dropped in bodily to say hello as effective ambassadors from the previous continuity. In an actual reboot, that previous continuity is inaccessible. It's like Nimoy's Spock in the Abrams Trek films. He's the same person who lived through TOS as well as the first six Trek films and Unification. That is his past. He appears in nuTrek because it's not a reboot. It's a timeline resulting from events which took place in the post-Nemesis portion of the Prime timeline. In fact, we see Prime universe events when Nimoy's Spock mind-melds with Pine's Kirk, just as McAvoy's Xavier sees events from the first four X-Men films ( including X3 and Origins ) when he mind-melds with Logan. Because the events in those films are Logan's past.
Ugh.
No, it's never going to make sense. Even if we entertain for a moment your belief that Episode IX is going to bomb and irrevocably ruin the Star Wars franchise (a ludicrous fantasy if ever there was one) comparing the failure of the movie to the sinking of the Titanic is such a flawed analogy, I'm not even sure wear to start. The Titanic was touted as unsinkable, but sank upon hitting an iceberg on its maiden voyage. Star Wars is a franchise which has forty years under its belt, and even as much as its fandom loves the series, they know it's not flawless. The Special Editions of the 90s with Greedo shooting first, the Prequels with Jar Jar Binks, these have certainly generated their detractors over the years, and now with Solo the franchise has a genuine financial failure. This is a franchise which has delivered its potential and done its service. To compare it to the loss of a ship which never got its moment and failed to deliver what it promised is both tone-deaf and idiotic. Of course, that's if Episode IX fails and tanks the franchise. Which it won't.
But I get it, you're trying to generate imagery of ultimate failure and shame that will be impossible to recover from. Because you know, Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy are evil and ignorant. Perhaps, I should suggest for a better analogy you say the Star Wars Franchise or Lucasfilm is the White Star Line, and Episode IX is the Titanic. Or would that require too much research to understand? I mean, even that isn't a perfect analogy, but it's a hell of a lot closer to what I think you're trying to say than what you actually said.
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Can this be the official term please ?
Speaking as an old coot, I never expected my old favorites would remain frozen in amber forever just to appease my nostalgia. To paraphrase Woody Allen, franchises are like sharks, they have to keep moving or they die. Change and evolution are part of the process.
There's a whole new generation of fans growing up on Rey and Finn and Poe and Rose, the same way we thrilled to Han and Luke and Lea back in the day. More power to them!
STAR WARS does not belong to only us old-timers.
See also STAR TREK, PLANET OF THE APES, GODZILLA, and every other "iconic" fan fave.
There's a whole new generation of fans growing up on Rey and Finn and Poe and Rose, the same way we thrilled to Han and Luke and Lea back in the day. More power to them!
STAR WARS does not belong to only us old-timers.
See also STAR TREK, PLANET OF THE APES, GODZILLA, and every other "iconic" fan fave.
This old coot agrees.
